chrisg Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Hi all Has anyone done a waterpump on one of these? Where do you disconnect the shift linkage..at the top or does a connection appear when you drop the leg? Can't quite see where you could do it at the top. And Huey if your watching what a pump kit worth these days for on 1985 70hp. I feel i might be coming your way! Cheers Chris
pelican Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 (edited) Hi all Has anyone done a waterpump on one of these? Where do you disconnect the shift linkage..at the top or does a connection appear when you drop the leg? Can't quite see where you could do it at the top. And Huey if your watching what a pump kit worth these days for on 1985 70hp. I feel i might be coming your way! Cheers Chris On the BRP site I think they still have a the complete breakdown of parts list and schematic diagrams that will show you which linkage you need to disconnect to drop off the gearbox. Just google parts list or schematic on one of the Johnson websites. Edited July 15, 2007 by pelican
Flightmanager Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 (edited) 0393137 0393137 GEARCASE ASSY. 1 7 Not Shown 1 0392196 GEARCASE & BRG. ASSY. 1 5 2 0386766 BEARING, Pinion 1 4 3 0324852 SET SCREW 1 4 0307853 0307853 O-RING 1 1 4 0320042 SCREEN, Water intake 1 3 5 0387066 BRG. HOUSING & PIN 1 7 6 0331880 PIN, Locating 1 3 7 0312870 SPRING, Shifter detent 1 4 8 0160084 BALL, Shifter detent 1 2 9 0322636 DETENT, Shifter 1 5 10 0320120 LEVER, Shifter 1 4 11 0320145 PIN, Shifter lever 1 4 12 0322900 CRADLE, Shifter 1 7 13 0386768 BRG. ASSY., Fwd. gear 1 7 14 0320172 SHAFT, Shifter 1 4 15 0387336 COVER ASSY. 1 4 16 0318372 O-RING, Shift rod 1 1 17 0305762 SEAL, Gearcase cover, std. 1 3 18 0319895 SHIFTER, Clutch dog 1 3 19 0320115 THRUST WASHER 1 4 20 0386719 THRUST BRG., Rev. gear 1 4 21 0320310 PIN, Clutch dog 1 3 22 0320311 SPRING, Clutch dog pin 1 3 23 0386659 PROPELLER SHAFT ASSY. 1 4 24 0320113 GEAR, Reverse 1 6 25 0320304 RETAINER PLATE, Brg. hsg. 1 5 26 0320309 RETAINING RING 2 4 27 0320303 t O-RING, Housing 1 2 28 0386920 BEARING HOUSING ASSY. 1 4 30 0386764 NEEDLE BEARING ASSY. 1 4 31 0321467 OIL RETAINER 2 1 32 0320041 SCREW, Housing 3 3 34 0302325 SCREW, Cover to gearcase 4 3 35 0313339 NUT, Pinion to driveshaft 1 2 36 0320167 SHIM, .07mm (.003") 0 4 36 0320167 SHIM, .10mm (.004") 0 4 36 0320168 SHIM, .12mm (.005") 0 4 36 0320169 SHIM, .15mm (.006") 0 4 36 0320170 SHIM, .17mm (.007") 0 4 37 0314082 GASKET, Cover to gearcase 1 2 38 0389965 GEAR AND PINION ASSY., Forward 1 7 39 0391377 DRIVESHAFT ASSY., 1 5 40 0320127 SHIFT ROD, Standard 1 7 41 0302588 O-RING, Seal housing 1 2 42 0387067 BEARING HSG. & SEAL ASSY. 1 4 43 0321466 OIL RETAINER, Driveshaft 2 1 44 0909386 SCREW, Housing to gearcase 4 3 45 0307551 PLUG, Fill and drain 2 1 46 0311598 WASHER, Nylon 1 1 47 0324937 SEAL, Gearcase, inner exh. 1 2 48 0385175 CONE & ROLLER ASSY. 1 3 49 0324981 SEAL, Impeller housing 1 3 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 Also included in Gearcase Seal Kit #396355 50 0324980 LINER, Impeller housing 1 4 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 51 0321940 PLATE, Impeller housing 1 4 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 52 0319276 GUIDE, Water tube 1 4 53 0319275 PLATE, Impeller housing 1 7 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 54 0315748 GROMMET, Impeller housing 1 7 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 55 0389557 IMPELLER ASSY. 1 7 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 56 0391049 IMPELLER HOUSING ASSY. 1 7 57 0331979 SCREW, Impeller housing 4 5 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 58 0908158 SCREW, Guide to housing 1 4 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 59 0314008 GROMMET, Water tube 1 3 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 60 0323950 KEY, Driveshaft to impeller 1 4 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 61 0326649 O-RING, Driveshaft 1 1 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 62 0320040 SCREW, Trimtab 1 4 63 0314502 t COTTER PIN, Propeller nut 1 1 64 0327810 t TRIM TAB 1 7 65 0552968 SCREW, gearcase tp exhaust housing 4 4 66 0307708 LOCKWASHER 1 4 67 0320305 THRUST BUSHING, Propeller 1 3 68 0315810 SPACER, Propeller nut 1 1 69 0314503 NUT, Propeller 1 2 70 0306314 LOCKWASHER 1 3 71 0313697 SCREW, Gearcase to hsg., long 1 4 72 0327482 FILLER BLOCK 1 4 ANODE AND INSERT 1 7 73 0392462 ANODE & INSERT, Forward 1 4 74 0328096 SCREW, Anode 1 3 74 0320000 SCREW, Filler block 1 7 75 0324430 SCREW, Anode 2 4 76 0307555 LOCKWASHER, Anode 2 6 77 0313022 NUT, Anode 2 4 78 0386907 PROPELLER, 13 x 11 1 3 78 0386909 PROPELLER, 12-1/2 x 13 1 2 78 0386786 PROPELLER, 12-1/4 x 15 1 7 78 0386841 PROPELLER, 11-3/4 x 17 1 7 78 0386908 PROPELLER, 11-1/2 x 19 1 7 78 0391014 PROPELLER, 11-1/4 x 21 1 4 78 0390849 PROPELLER, 12-1/2 x 13 - (SST) 1 4 78 0390850 PROPELLER, 12-1/4 x 15 - (SST) 1 4 78 0390851 PROPELLER, 11-3/4 x 17 - (SST) 1 4 78 0390852 PROPELLER, 11-1/4 x 19 - (SST) 1 4 78 0391015 PROPELLER, 11-1/4 x 21 - (SST) 1 5 79 0320141 CONVERGING RING, Aluminum prop. 1 7 80 0386787 PROPELLER BUSHING ASSY. 1 4 81 0389145 CHROME PUMP KIT 1 4 82 0390769 WATER PUMP REPAIR KIT 1 7 82 0391634 WATER PUMP REPAIR KIT, (includes impeller housing) 1 7 83 0392461 ANODE KIT 1 3 84 0396355 GEARCASE SEAL KIT 1 Ross 0393138 0393138 GEARCASE ASSY., Long 1 7 Not Shown 1 0392478 GEARCASE & BEARING ASSY. 1 4 2 0382343 BEARING, Pinion 1 2 3 0324852 SET SCREW, Bearing 1 4 0307853 0307853 O-RING 1 1 Not Shown 4 0314175 SCREEN, Water intake 1 2 5 0391365 BEARING HOUSING ASSY. 1 3 5A 0382407 NEEDLE BEARING 1 2 6 0331880 PIN, Housing to g'case 1 3 7 0326666 SPRING, Detent 1 6 8 0327345 BALL, Detent 1 4 9 0326670 DETENT, Shifter 1 4 11 0324037 LEVER, Shift 1 4 12 0320145 PIN, Lever to hsg. 1 4 13 0313447 THRUST WASHER, Rev. 1 4 14 0382408 THRUST BEARING, Rev. 1 2 15 0389964 GEAR AND PINION ASSY. 1 7 16 0326668 SHAFT, Shifter 1 4 17 0318303 SHIFTER, Clutch dog 1 3 18 0313448 PIN, Clutch dog 1 2 19 0324369 SPRING, Clutch dog pin 1 1 20 0387879 PROPELLER SHAFT ASSY. 1 7 21 0318304 GEAR, Reverse 1 3 22 0313453 RETAINER PLATE, Bearing housing 1 4 23 0313445 RETAINING RING 2 4 24 0313446 O-RING, bearing housing 1 1 25 0393717 BEARING HOUSING ASSY. 1 7 26 0382407 NEEDLE BEARING ASSY. 1 2 27 0379504 NEEDLE BEARING ASSY. 1 3 28 0321463 OIL RETAINER 2 7 29 0320041 SCREW, Hsg. to gearcase 4 3 31 0313339 NUT, Pinion to d'shaft 1 2 32 0302325 SCREW, Cover to gearcase 4 3 33 0391378 DRIVESHAFT ASSY., Long 1 4 34 0385068 THRUST BEARING ASSY. 1 3 35 0317230 THRUST WASHER 1 3 36 0323889 SHIM, .07mm (.003") 0 3 36 0323890 SHIM, .10mm (.004") 0 3 36 0317232 SHIM, .12mm (.005") 0 3 37 0313754 O-RING, Bearing housing 1 2 38 0385087 BEARING HOUSING ASSY. 1 4 39 0321466 OIL RETAINER, Housing 2 1 40 0909386 SCREW, Hsg. to g'case 4 3 41 0307551 PLUG, Fill & drain, upper 1 1 42 0311598 WASHER, Nylon 1 1 43 0385043 THRUST BEARING, Forward 1 3 44 0324937 SEAL, G'case to inner exh. hsg. 1 2 45 0324766 THRUST WASHER, Fwd. 1 3 46 0318544 PLUG, Fill & drain, lower 1 1 0311598 0311598 WASHER 1 1 Not Shown 47 0316484 THRUST WASHER, Shifter dog reverse 1 4 48 0388651 COVER ASSY. 1 4 49 0318372 O-RING, Shift rod 1 1 50 0327337 SHIFT ROD, Long 1 4 51 0314082 GASKET, Cover to g'case 1 2 52 0322900 CRADLE, Shifter 1 7 53 0324980 LINER, Impeller housing 1 4 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 54 0324981 SEAL, Impeller housing 1 3 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 55 0321940 PLATE, Impeller housing 1 4 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 56 0319275 PLATE, Impeller housing 1 7 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 57 0315748 GROMMET, Housing 1 7 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 58 0326649 O-RING, Driveshaft 1 1 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 Also included in Gearcase Kit #396349 59 0391049 IMPELLER HOUSING 1 7 60 0314008 GROMMET,, Water tube 1 3 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 61 0908158 SCREW, Guide to hsg. 1 4 62 0331979 SCREW, Impeller hsg. 4 5 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 63 0319276GUIDE, Water tube 1 4 64 0323950 KEY, Impeller to d'shaft 1 4 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 65 0389557 IMPELLER ASSY. 1 7 Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 66 0552968 SCREW, Gearcase to hsg. 4 4Also included in Water Pump Repair Kit #391634 67 0307708 LOCKWASHER 4 4 68 0306503 SCREW, Short 1 4 69 0306470 LOCKWASHER, Short screw 1 3 70 0313697 SCREW, Long 1 4 71 0306314 LOCKWASHER, Long screw 1 3 72 0318841 THRUST BUSHING ASSY. 1 7 73 0315810 SPACER, Prop. nut 1 1 74 0314503 NUT, Propeller 1 2 75 0314502 COTTER PIN, Prop. nut 1 1 76 0327810 TRIM TAB, Gearcase 1 7 77 0313715 SCREW, Trim tab 1 2 78 0321452 GROMMET 1 4 79 0327482 FILLER BLOCK 1 4 79 0393023 ANODE AND INSERT 1 7 80 0392462 ANODE AND INSERT, Forward 1 4 81 0322000 SCREW, Filler block 1 4 81 0328096 SCREW, Anode 1 3 82 0324430 SCREW, Anode 2 4 83 0307555 LOCKWASHER, Anode 2 6 84 0313022 NUT, Anode 2 4 85 0383160 PROPELLER, 14 x 9 1 4 85 0382761 PROPELLER, 14 x 11 1 3 85 0391668 PROPELLER, 14 x 13 1 2 85 0391198 PROPELLER, 13-3/4 x 15 1 1 85 0390896 PROPELLER, 13 x 19 1 7 85 0389788 PROPELLER, 12-3/4 x 21 1 7 85 0390895 PROPELLER, 12-3/4 x 23 1 4 85 0390750 PROPELLER, 13-3/4 x 23 - SSTRX 1 7 85 0392261 PROPELLER, 13-3/4 x 13 - SST 1 4 85 0389948 PROPELLER, 13-3/4 x 17 - SST 1 7 85 0389510 PROPELLER, 13 x 19 - SST 1 7 85 0389512 PROPELLER, 12-3/4 x 21 - SST 1 6 85 0389514 PROPELLER, 12-3/4 x 23 - SST 1 7 85 0389792 PROPELLER, 13-3/4 x 11 - SST 1 7 85 0389949 PROPELLER, 13-3/4 x 15 - SST 1 7 85 0391199 PROPELLER, 13-1/4 x 17 1 7 86 0325996 CONVERGING RING 1 7 87 0384977 PROP. BUSHING ASSY. 1 4 88 0390769 WATER PUMP REPAIR KIT 1 7 88 0391634 WATER PUMP REPAIR KIT, (includes impeller housing) 1 7 89 0389145 CHROME PUMP KIT 1 4 90 0392461 ANODE KIT 1 3 91 0396349 GEARCASE SEAL KIT This is the 20" model. Ross Edited July 15, 2007 by Flightmanager
a boat Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Good Morning Chris, a water pump service is a relative easy process if you have basic mechanical experience. The hardest thing is removing the shift shart retaining srcew under the carbys. You might also need an oxy if it has not been off in the last 5 odd years because the bolts may be seized. A complete water pump kit is $85 including the Fishraider discount. This kit includes the water pump housing. Cheers, Huey.
chrisg Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 Thanks all I've done a Merc before so I'm familiar with the basics..just could'nt quite seen how the Johno shift worked. Huey I'll come down from the Coast this week for a kit...would you keep them in stock? Cheers Chris
a boat Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Hi Chris, no I am sorry to kit is an order in part. If we order by noon we usually have by about 4PM the next day. PM me your details if you would like me to order a kit, Cheers, Huey.
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