PM79 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) I was just at the local shop looking to get some new squid jigs as I lost a few in the harbor during the week and I noticed that shimano now has it's own squid jig out. They have this device underneath that has the weight on a stainless steel thread and apparently the guy told me that it's so you can control how the jig sinks, head first and fast or belly first and slow. Has anyone bought and tried them? I can't seem to find any information on the shimano website either, the packaging was very similar to the new lucanus jigs. Edited September 30, 2008 by reLapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) The only information I could find said they were called the "Dandy" and the japan shimano website's page for them no longer exists. I found a picture. If anyone has any information on these jigs I'd love to hear it. Edited September 30, 2008 by reLapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretsch Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Relapse, I have not got any of those but, I always check my jigs for a smooth, slow horizontal sink and trim the weight as need be. Those jigs sound as though they take the hassle out of it. I might get me some of them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) I haven't seen them anywhere else but the store I was at today and they only had them in the blue, pink/white and a gold/hazel. At $21 each though you could easily run into the hundreds of dollars for a collection of varying sizes but I was thinking that if altering the position of the weight changes the rate at which the jig sinks then this design could do away with the need for 2-3 jigs in the same colour and different sizes. Anyway here's another picture for anyone interested. Edited September 30, 2008 by reLapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) I went and grabbed 2 to try out, the 10J (pink/white) and the 09J (gold/hazel). The only thing I can fault them on is the quality of the barbs as the size, sharpness and overall quality is nowhere near as good as my yozuri's but I'll really only know once I put them to work. Edited September 30, 2008 by reLapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 they seem similar to the new daiwa squid jigs which they say has a sliding weight system built in. just flicking through their 2008/2009 lures guide it says that the jig shifts the weight to the tail end for fast accurate casting and returns back to the front balancing the lure properly. not sure but maybe thats what the shimano jigs are designed to also do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) The weight on the shimano ones require manual adjustment and the idea is that it allows you to change the sink rate and angle of the jig to suit different types of fishing. I originally saw the daiwa ones and the idea behind the moving internal weight sparked my interest as it's also meant to work as a rattle but I have to to take issue with them as they have a hole in the external weight that allows you to add extra weight but the jigs don't come with the little weights to add which I personally think is a bit of a rip considering the price you're already paying for them. I've seen cheaper jigs of similar or better quality supplying the extra weight. Edited September 30, 2008 by reLapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) Here are some more detailed pictures that I found, I was going to take my own but the camera has a mind of it's own at the moment. If you buy them direct from japan they cost $13 each, if they turn out to be the goods I think I'll definitely prefer to pay $8 less per jig. Shimano should have them priced for say $15 in Australia, they'd probably sell a lot more than at their current price. Oh and apparently they were a 2005 product in japan and we're only just getting them now. Edited September 30, 2008 by reLapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Laps I have seen theses at my local tackle shop for years i have never been inclined to give them a go Not sure on the price either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 Johnno could you send me a PM with the name of your local tackle shop? My local had very limited stock and I'm interested in finding more shops with them. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netic Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I have also seen them for year and never purchased them as they dont come in smaller sizes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 What smaller sizes do you use netic? I've never used anything below a 2.5 but I've been looking at the 1.8's and wondering how successful they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netic Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Mate i use 1.8 and 2.0 ....rarely use any bigger....But i get all my squid over kelp beds in about 5-10ft of water so any heavier would be snagging up all the time......Mate stick to Yamashita and Yozuri.....they are the best and as they say "if it aint broke don't fix it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) How do the 1.8 and 2.0 size jigs sink in tidal movement? I've always opted for 2.5/3.0-4.0 to make sure I can get down under any conditions and last week was the first time I've ever lost a jig to a snag. I've always used Yozuri but they've changed them slightly over the years and now I don't like them, as for Yamshita they seem to have gone the same way as Yozuri. I've never minded paying for quality jigs but I honestly think that Yozrui and Yamashita have lowered their standards and are now high price for low quality compared to some of the other brands that are now coming in from japan. Funny thing is that lately I've had more squid grabbing my sp's than jigs, someone really needs to come up with a sp body with a jig you can attach. It would be a great money maker for them as I had 8 flickbaits, almost an entire packet, ruined last week due to squid. By the end of the day I was just using the SP to hold them in place and netting them and as they refused to grab any jigs. I've never known squid to be so fussy, maybe the ones at swansea are just stupid and take anything. Edited October 1, 2008 by reLapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big-Banana Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Always fish a 2.5 jig and if I have follows without takes, have a 1.8 on standby on a handline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 Always fish a 2.5 jig and if I have follows without takes, have a 1.8 on standby on a handline... That's not a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretsch Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 It really depends where you are squidding and the size of the squid. I mainly target the medium to large Calamari in 4-10 metres of water and use a 3.0 or 3.5. If I am chasing arrows or smaller Calamari, I will switch to a 2.0 or 2.5. One thing I have learn't is that you need to be in the zone. I find that the heavier jigs, provided they have the right action (nice level sink) are the most successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted October 2, 2008 Author Share Posted October 2, 2008 I've found the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netic Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 We have always use 1.8 to 2.0 jigs and always caught good numbers of squid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big-Banana Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 It really depends where you are squidding and the size of the squid. I mainly target the medium to large Calamari in 4-10 metres of water and use a 3.0 or 3.5. If I am chasing arrows or smaller Calamari, I will switch to a 2.0 or 2.5. One thing I have learn't is that you need to be in the zone. I find that the heavier jigs, provided they have the right action (nice level sink) are the most successful. I'm not after babies Snagged this one the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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