hambo692 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) Raiders, The other day i got a bit too curious about 'what was under those screws' on the top of my cheapo Silstar. So, i undid them, saw that it just took the spool lip off, and put it back together. Now, once the drag is tightened to even looser than normal, the drag knob turns with the spool when line is pulled. This results in it getting EXTREMELY tight. Please Help! Thanks Edited July 8, 2010 by Flatboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodch0p Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Raiders, The other day i got a bit too curious about 'what was under those screws' on the top of my cheapo Silstar. So, i undid them, saw that it just took the spool lip off, and put it back together. Now, once the drag is tightened to even looser than normal, the drag knob turns with the spool when line is pulled. This results in it getting EXTREMELY tight. Please Help! Thanks I have never pulled apart a silstar before but by the sounds of things there must be something you have put in wrong to cause the drag knob to catch on the spool causing it to turn. Check to make sure the screws are countersunk in correctly to avoid them catching. Also remove the drag knob and check that the middle of the spool has no obstructions causing the centre piece of the drag knob to catch. Possibly could be a washer out of line or even a metal spring clip from the spool getting caught on the drag knob. The main shaft doesn't spin at all so there has to be something catching between the drag knob and spool. Sorry I could be more helpful, hard to paint a picture blind. Regards Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 G'day Flatboy, Could you take some photos and post them? It's hard to visualise exactly what you mean so maybe even repeat what you did and take photos of the steps for us... can't make the problem worse and that way we might be able to see the problem. Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambo692 Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Slinky, I tried to upload last night but phone software is pretty difficult to get used to will try and uploaad again now. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambo692 Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Finally got the software to work... but now cant find the screwdriver so the photos might no be too much use sorry! The reel... Undid the drag and found these 8 screws Don't have the screwdriver but when you undo the screws, the round black bit lifts off, and then the metal bit, and you can see the line all the way to the centre of the spool. Sorry i couldn't undo the screws, but hopefully this is enough. Thanks, it would be nice for it to be working properly- not just having the drag on or off p.s thanks woodch0p, everything seems to be really clear including the screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce the Postie Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Did the drag washers come out when you took it apart ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambo692 Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Did the drag washers come out when you took it apart ? yeh they did when the reel fell off the table onto the ground... i think i've put them back in the right way though- soft, metal, soft, metal- i also tried metal, soft, soft, metal and some other combinations but none of them have worked. I was hoping that that wasn't the problem Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 yeh they did when the reel fell off the table onto the ground... i think i've put them back in the right way though- soft, metal, soft, metal- i also tried metal, soft, soft, metal and some other combinations but none of them have worked. I was hoping that that wasn't the problem Thanks. Getting closer but still need to know the model details if you have them mate. I want to try to find the schematics so I can take a look. The order of drag washers should always have alternating metal/soft washers by the way but it's important they are in the right sequence. Have a look at the general diagram halfway down this page... http://www.smoothdrag.com/settings.html At least one of the metal washers in your set probably has 'ears'... make sure you're not using it at the top of the stack. Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambo692 Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Ok thanks Slinky that could be the problem. I thought the one with ears went on the top... It's an EX-60 if that helps. I found another screwdriver so will try and rearrange the washers now. But the next problem... one of the metal washers is missing... It should just be on the floor though Thanks for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambo692 Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Ok the missing washer was under the dog's food bowl... Now i have the same number of metal and fibre washers. One of the metal washers is just a normal round one, one is normal with ears, and the one i found has a big dent in the middle, then the hole. From the diagram this one must go on top, but which way? Thanks again for your help slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Ok the missing washer was under the dog's food bowl... Now i have the same number of metal and fibre washers. One of the metal washers is just a normal round one, one is normal with ears, and the one i found has a big dent in the middle, then the hole. From the diagram this one must go on top, but which way? Thanks again for your help slinky Lump on the top (facing upwards) on the top washer mate. Eared washer in the middle. Flat, 'keyd' (square hole) washer the lowest metal washer. Fibre washer in between each, ending with a fibre washer on the very bottom of the stack (the 'dented' metal washer should end up on the very top of the stack) No more stripping reels near the dogfood bowl Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambo692 Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Thanks so much slinky, I probably wont touch any reels again :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Don't give up on it that easily. It's a simple mistake but very easily avoided. You might have noticed in any of my reel posts that when I pull them apart, every part gets lined up in-order on my bench as it is taken off the reel. That way, it can all go back together again in reverse order with some confidence that you have all the bits and you know where they go. And even though I've pulled down hundreds of reels, whenever I'm taking one down I always keep the schematics at hand to check. Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodch0p Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 After sorting out the drag washer stacks did it fix up the issue? When I pull apart a reel I usually do it over a box or a lipped tray so if I do acidentally drop something it can't go rolling off the table, and any part with springs I put an old money bag over it before pulling it off so it doesn't fly elsewhere. An old divided tackle box is great for pulling apart reels as you can place parts in step by step, and as slinky has told me photos are also a great reference tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambo692 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Share Posted July 12, 2010 Yeh thanks it's all sorted out now thanks to you and slinky... i will take more care with reels now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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