Mondo Rock Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hi Raiders With winter nearly on us I've turned my attention back to drummer fishing and started poking around at the spots I found last year. Had a session yesterday that was a bit of a disappointment (three drummer landed - all undersize) but it did start me thinking about techniques and drummer habitat. The spot I was fishing (near Julienne) has a lot of cracks, holes and tunnels under the rocks and walking around the area you often find yourself stepping over a deep crack with water gurgling away at the bottom. Yesterday, for the first time, I started dropping my bait into these cracks to see what happened. Well, most of the time nothing - but occasionally I'd get utterly hammered by what I assume were big drummer that were swimming up into these cracks, crevices and holes through underwater tunnels and caves. I was completely undergunned for this type of fishing and every single fish hooked using this method rubbed me off on the rocks within about 1 second of being hooked. It was hilarious fishing when I think about it - me 10 metres back from the water using a 12ft rod to drop prawns into cracks in the rocks - and then getting completely smoked after one second of a thumping hook-up. I'm going to gear-up and try again with 30lb fluoro leader to see if I can't extract some of these monsters, but I thought I'd ask if anyone else has tried this form of fishing? I think I've heard it referred to as 'pot-holing': anyone with any tips or experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderick59 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hi Raiders With winter nearly on us I've turned my attention back to drummer fishing and started poking around at the spots I found last year. Had a session yesterday that was a bit of a disappointment (three drummer landed - all undersize) but it did start me thinking about techniques and drummer habitat. The spot I was fishing (near Julienne) has a lot of cracks, holes and tunnels under the rocks and walking around the area you often find yourself stepping over a deep crack with water gurgling away at the bottom. Yesterday, for the first time, I started dropping my bait into these cracks to see what happened. Well, most of the time nothing - but occasionally I'd get utterly hammered by what I assume were big drummer that were swimming up into these cracks, crevices and holes through underwater tunnels and caves. I was completely undergunned for this type of fishing and every single fish hooked using this method rubbed me off on the rocks within about 1 second of being hooked. It was hilarious fishing when I think about it - me 10 metres back from the water using a 12ft rod to drop prawns into cracks in the rocks - and then getting completely smoked after one second of a thumping hook-up. I'm going to gear-up and try again with 30lb fluoro leader to see if I can't extract some of these monsters, but I thought I'd ask if anyone else has tried this form of fishing? I think I've heard it referred to as 'pot-holing': anyone with any tips or experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderick59 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 hi mondo did a bit of potholeing on the high tides at night i would pick out the deeper holes in the day at low tide and put a wire burley cage filled with stale bread and a dash of tuna oil weighted down with a heavy rock so it did not move as the tide came in as the tide comes in start fishing 1hour before high using bread [dough]or peeled prawns have caught heaps of bream drummer and blackfish with this method i used 15lb mono little or no lead do it to a few different holes in the same area and see the ones that produce the most fish peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) Hi Mondo are you referring to fishing into the cracks where the water has eroded whole sections of the corner rocks away at South Maroubra? you can also get a good supply of lobsters in that area. Cheers jewgaffer ................................................................................................................... "hi mondo did a bit of potholeing on the high tides at night i would pick out the deeper holes in the day at low tide and put a wire burley cage filled with stale bread and a dash of tuna oil weighted down with a heavy rock so it did not move as the tide came in as the tide comes in start fishing 1hour before high using bread [dough]or peeled prawns have caught heaps of bream drummer and blackfish with this method i used 15lb mono little or no lead do it to a few different holes in the same area and see the ones that produce the most fish peter"............................................................................................................... There's some top advice there Luderick59 Cheers jewgaffer Edited May 23, 2011 by jewgaffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondo Rock Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Thanks Peter - that technique sounds like a good one and I'll have to give it a go. It's not quite what I am talking about though. From your description it seems you're talking about fishing in low-lying rock pools at high-tide which, productive though it may be, is not what I was doing. Similarly, although I know the eroded corners at South Maroubra that you're talking about Byron (and agree that they're probably excellent drummer haunts, I'm not actually fishing these. No - what I'm trying here is far stupider than that. I'm talking about those crevices and holes well back from the water's edge that just look like a deep crack with water at the bottom - but as you watch the water level you realise that it's rising and falling with the waves, meaning that the crack is connected with the ocean somehow. Some of them are no more than a foot wide. They're similar to blow-holes, but without the actual blowing. I'm going to try to get some photos so that I can show you what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad66 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 well the areas you describe could also be home to those lovely moray eels and without a real heavy line they would smoke you once they tie themselves in knots i did a lot of pigfishing in my younger days of the nthn beaches 30lb line to a running ballsinker to a 2/0 hook with a nice lump of cunji always exciting even a 2kg drummer would try and drag you in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheap charlie Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 well the areas you describe could also be home to those lovely moray eels and without a real heavy line they would smoke you once they tie themselves in knots i did a lot of pigfishing in my younger days of the nthn beaches 30lb line to a running ballsinker to a 2/0 hook with a nice lump of cunji always exciting even a 2kg drummer would try and drag you in When fishing this style of rig, are you casting out or just dropping your bait directly down and holding your bait just of the bottom? I have been trying to Target pigs of late. I have been persisting with a black fish rig, would I be better of ditching the float? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad66 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 (edited) When fishing this style of rig, are you casting out or just dropping your bait directly down and holding your bait just of the bottom? I have been trying to Target pigs of late. I have been persisting with a black fish rig, would I be better of ditching the float? never used a float for pigs just fished the wash off the rocks if the drummer are there it never hits the bottom we just used the weight to a:cast out far enough without losing bait and b: to get it down to the bigger ones quickly to beat the small scavengers cunji only lasts one bite! on occasion we would bread burley some lovely platforms off bilgola /whale beach/avalon etc got a monster silver drummer 10kg plus most blacks were 1-5kg drummer love cunji and also crabs thanks to there love of crabs was the reason i found my secret dont get wet and catch lobsters spot! if you want to know where that is pm me and ill tell you NOTHING Edited May 24, 2011 by mtcolah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheap charlie Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Thanks for your detailed reply. Much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Probably worth mentioning that most rock cracks and crevices are full of green eels, pretty sure they would win most contests of rod vs eel Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondo Rock Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 I wondered about the possibility of catching eels as a by-catch using this method - I guess I'll have to wait and see what happens! Am going to try this again on the weekend and take some photos so that you can all see what I'm talking about. If it works it could be a good new technique!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheap charlie Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Sounds like good clean fun. Can't wait for the pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb156 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) If your are going for drummer next year go to beatue bay rocks and have your line down as far as you can and every now and agin bring your line in just to check your bait and I am sure you will get a drummer Edited September 1, 2013 by caleb156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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