dave nagy Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Just wondering if you lose car licence if you get done on the water. Not that i have been done, just wonering. Since Aust day when some clowns played up at Jibbon in the Port Hacking the cops have benn on patrol. Several weeks ago they were even filming RBT getting evry boat headinig towards Yowie Bay coming out of the Christian camp chanel. I think it will be on tv in the next couple of weeks. Dont know how many they got, but its a warning to all boaters. I know in QLD you dont lose your car licence, dut is it the same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel944 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I think the licenses would have to be combined first (which is quite likley to happen) then yea, loose one loose both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Interesting question, and I look forward to hearing an official response. Food for thought ... if you're over the limit in your boat, how are you supposed to tow it home, especially if you're on your own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reyzor Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 probably the same way they expect you to get your car home if youve been done DUI and you are alone.... leave it there, or call someone..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) Unless it is on the same Licence as mentioned by daniel944, there is no logic to lose both. Hence why "Licence Class" exists on your card. I.e. if you ride a motorbike get suspended, that includes a car too. Sounds logical to me. They are completely different licences, case closed. FYI: You can bet your bottom dollar they will be combined. For those of you that don't already know, the RTA is now called RMS, Roads and Maritime Services. Edited March 29, 2012 by The Incredible Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumb Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm pretty sure you do lose both. It's a deterrent and rightfully so, Apparently if your on your push bike on a road over the limit you loose your lic as well.... I'm sure one of the 17000 fish raiders is a cop or a high priced lawyer that could clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm pretty sure you do lose both. It's a deterrent and rightfully so, Apparently if your on your push bike on a road over the limit you loose your lic as well.... I'm sure one of the 17000 fish raiders is a cop or a high priced lawyer that could clarify. Read this: http://www.maritime.nsw.gov.au/docs/wh/murray_review.pdf Its a 2011 safety review on possible new compliance etc for water\boating safety. Pay attention to "Discussion paper options supported by submission" #27 - keyword is "should" as it is a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifisho Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 As stated above I dont think you do currently, but hopefully they can combine both so that anyone stupid enough to be banned for DUI (or anything else for that matter) in either their car or boat gets banned for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumb Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Fair enough. What is everyone's thoughts? Personally I'd welcome it. Anyone who's happy to drive a boat under the influence shouldn't be on the roads with me and my family. Could be opening can of worms here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchin Jack Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Combine them I say, get done for DUI then lose ALL licences, should lose vessel/car etc you were in control of also no matter if you own it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reyzor Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Combine them I say, get done for DUI then lose ALL licences, should lose vessel/car etc you were in control of also no matter if you own it or not. yep, dui in a car, lose your bike, car, truck, crane, boat, pwc, helicopter, plane etc....... no room in this world for irrisponsible people..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Combine them I say, get done for DUI then lose ALL licences, should lose vessel/car etc you were in control of also no matter if you own it or not. +1 temped to open another can of worms about jet skis, but I won't... or have I... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew399 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'm pretty sure you do lose both. It's a deterrent and rightfully so, Apparently if your on your push bike on a road over the limit you loose your lic as well.... I'm sure one of the 17000 fish raiders is a cop or a high priced lawyer that could clarify. thats not true. I had this debate the other day with someone and looked up the legislation and everything. You can only get fined for offences on a bicycle as to lose points etc on your car licence the infringement needs to have occured in a motor vehicle and a bicycle does not meet the definition of a motor vehicle under the Act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boban Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 thats not true. I had this debate the other day with someone and looked up the legislation and everything. You can only get fined for offences on a bicycle as to lose points etc on your car licence the infringement needs to have occured in a motor vehicle and a bicycle does not meet the definition of a motor vehicle under the Act. Spot on and you can even have a motor on a bicycle up to a certain power limit without it being considered a motor vehicle. I had a client who once rode one of those motorised scooter while he had his driver's licence suspended. His scooter was a little too powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen801 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I got a speeding ticket in my boat and it is not connected to car license. Just paid the $70 dollar fine and that was it. I am sure that the day is coming for combined license and the other tax gouge the man seems to have forgotten is that there is no stamp duty on transferring ergo on boats. SSSHHHH. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefish Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 i reckon .05 on a boat is a bit rich. if you drive a car you are expected to drive within 2 metres of another car with a closing speed of 120-200 kph, every few seconds in the sun or rain, day or night. in reality you cannot choose the speed you go or the path you take.this kind of accuracy and attention is not required on a boat, id rather be under the harbour bridge than on it. how about if you are the only boat on a reef, or difting for flatties a couple of miles out, 2 beers is pushing it. i speak without having been busted but would like 1 more beer sometimes, not wanting to get maggotty. i feel .08 during sunrise to sunset excluding bar crossings would be fairer. however i dont expect much support from RMS on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaners Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 i reckon .05 on a boat is a bit rich. if you drive a car you are expected to drive within 2 metres of another car with a closing speed of 120-200 kph, every few seconds in the sun or rain, day or night. in reality you cannot choose the speed you go or the path you take.this kind of accuracy and attention is not required on a boat, id rather be under the harbour bridge than on it. how about if you are the only boat on a reef, or difting for flatties a couple of miles out, 2 beers is pushing it. i speak without having been busted but would like 1 more beer sometimes, not wanting to get maggotty. i feel .08 during sunrise to sunset excluding bar crossings would be fairer. however i dont expect much support from RMS on this one. 0.8 is fine at sea if you want to go that way but how can you drive your car home when the road limit is 0.5,logically they need to be the same. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifisho Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 0.8 is fine at sea if you want to go that way but how can you drive your car home when the road limit is 0.5,logically they need to be the same. Regards. You must be kidding surely? There is just as much (if not more) that can go wrong at sea and the consequences can be just as bad. If it were up to me there should be a zero limit on the water - too many idiots out there as it is without the addition of alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaners Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 You must be kidding surely? There is just as much (if not more) that can go wrong at sea and the consequences can be just as bad. If it were up to me there should be a zero limit on the water - too many idiots out there as it is without the addition of alcohol. I agree,I reckon it should be Zero on the road as well. Any one watch that RBT show on the telly,when the morons say "Ive only had 2 long necks or Ive only had 4 schooners in half an hour I should be under". Make it so you cant drink any then there is no confusion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffy Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Soft drink on the water - beer at home. No exceptions. Been around too long - seen too many pissed idiots. Tuffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnv Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 lol i agree with tuffy on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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