niclebum Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Hi Raiders, i would like to giver Manly Dam a fish this weekend to try some of my first freshwater fishing. For some reason i am going for carp. Does this involve just small sinker and hook and corn or bread? Also bass on plastics? Curious to know if these species are easy to catch there any feedback appreciated Parraman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunter Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Hi Raiders, i would like to giver Manly Dam a fish this weekend to try some of my first freshwater fishing. For some reason i am going for carp. Does this involve just small sinker and hook and corn or bread? Also bass on plastics? Curious to know if these species are easy to catch there any feedback appreciated Parraman Hi Parraman, since nobody's replied and you're going this weekend, here's my tiny effort to help ;-) I've only ever fished Manly Dam once, accompanied by my 4-year-old son and on a busy summer Sunday, and caught absolutely nothing. But I've been meaning to try again, especially as I spent many years of my life in Europe specialising in carp fishing. On this one visit, I decided that next time, I'll focus on the backwaters easily reached by that little road: park at the end and walk a little further to the reedy, weedy areas that look so fishy (in a carpy sort of way). I'm sure that given a full day of peace and quiet, I'd be able to haul out a few (and, being the carp lover I am, return them back to the water despite the howls of anguished Aussie carp-haters...). As to technique, what you describe will work but it's not as much fun as either floating a piece of bread crust on the surface (with plenty of burleying, but watch out for the ducks...) or float fishing (even when the bait's presented on the bottom, a lightly leaded float is better than a sinker). As to bait, corn is king for carp, bread's also good but attracts other species and more difficult to keep on the hook. Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclebum Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 Cheers for all your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathsh Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 mate not meaning to be rude but why would you go carp fishing when youre so close to the ocean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabble Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Hi Parraman, since nobody's replied and you're going this weekend, here's my tiny effort to help ;-) I've only ever fished Manly Dam once, accompanied by my 4-year-old son and on a busy summer Sunday, and caught absolutely nothing. But I've been meaning to try again, especially as I spent many years of my life in Europe specialising in carp fishing. On this one visit, I decided that next time, I'll focus on the backwaters easily reached by that little road: park at the end and walk a little further to the reedy, weedy areas that look so fishy (in a carpy sort of way). I'm sure that given a full day of peace and quiet, I'd be able to haul out a few (and, being the carp lover I am, return them back to the water despite the howls of anguished Aussie carp-haters...). As to technique, what you describe will work but it's not as much fun as either floating a piece of bread crust on the surface (with plenty of burleying, but watch out for the ducks...) or float fishing (even when the bait's presented on the bottom, a lightly leaded float is better than a sinker). As to bait, corn is king for carp, bread's also good but attracts other species and more difficult to keep on the hook. Have fun! Good to see your giving advice to others to help out on the fishing front but just felt inclined to point out that releasing carp isn't really a to do with whether or not one hates carp but more about trying to help maintain the natural environment and help Australian native species thrive. They are a pest in Australia and should be treated as such and disposed of when caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.KingSpooled Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Good to see your giving advice to others to help out on the fishing front but just felt inclined to point out that releasing carp isn't really a to do with whether or not one hates carp but more about trying to help maintain the natural environment and help Australian native species thrive. They are a pest in Australia and should be treated as such and disposed of when caught. Honestly I thought there was a rule made by fisheries that if you did catch a carp it was to be killed and disposed and not returned to the water it was caught in because its a pest. Or is it not a rule just common sence to get rid of pests to help save our native marine species? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bump73 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Honestly I thought there was a rule made by fisheries that if you did catch a carp it was to be killed and disposed and not returned to the water it was caught in because its a pest. Or is it not a rule just common sence to get rid of pests to help save our native marine species? Perfectly legal to release them back where they are caught as explained here http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/pests-diseases/freshwater-pests/species/carp/groups/recreational-fishers The truth is recreational fishing makes little if any impact on carp numbers. It has taken 10 years or something to clear 2 lakes in Tassie using netting electrocution and numerous other methods. Anyone who thinks recreational fisherman catching and killing a couple here and there will actually make a difference to their numbers is kidding themselves. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josamill Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I live in and fish the northern beaches and find the idea of tempting a carp out of manly dam quite appealing! I know they are a pest but in manly dam they can't go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunter Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Good to see your giving advice to others to help out on the fishing front but just felt inclined to point out that releasing carp isn't really a to do with whether or not one hates carp but more about trying to help maintain the natural environment and help Australian native species thrive. They are a pest in Australia and should be treated as such and disposed of when caught. Hi dabble, thanks for your comment. Believe me, if I could do anything about the introduction of carp (and redfin, and trout, and salmon...) into Australian waters I would. Killing anything I catch, though, won't make a difference. Carp are here to stay, and all scientific studies (by CSIRO and others, I give you sources and references if you like) confirm that the effect of carp on native species is much exaggerated. I mentioned "carp hating" because there's a tendency among Aussie fishos to blame carp for almost everything that's wrong with Australian fisheries: "kill, kill, kill" is just so much easier a response than understanding the real reasons for the decline of native species, bank erosion, water turbidity, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunter Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Perfectly legal to release them back where they are caught as explained here http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/pests-diseases/freshwater-pests/species/carp/groups/recreational-fishers The truth is recreational fishing makes little if any impact on carp numbers. It has taken 10 years or something to clear 2 lakes in Tassie using netting electrocution and numerous other methods. Anyone who thinks recreational fisherman catching and killing a couple here and there will actually make a difference to their numbers is kidding themselves. Ben You're right, Ben. You could also have mentioned that the war against carp in Tasmania is not to protect native species but other "introduced pests", trout and salmon. It's a war for the tourist dollar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.KingSpooled Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Perfectly legal to release them back where they are caught as explained here http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/pests-diseases/freshwater-pests/species/carp/groups/recreational-fishers The truth is recreational fishing makes little if any impact on carp numbers. It has taken 10 years or something to clear 2 lakes in Tassie using netting electrocution and numerous other methods. Anyone who thinks recreational fisherman catching and killing a couple here and there will actually make a difference to their numbers is kidding themselves. Ben Hey Ben, Your totally right It's just I started fishing with my girlfriends old man n that's where I got my passion for fishing ! He's old school and hates carp n basically told me if I ever went carp fishing to always dispose of my catch f as there pest ! He sort of explained it in a way where i thought it would be illegal if I was to release them ! Well I know better now but I guess it's still each to their own !! For me I don't do much carp fishing at all but when I do I dispose of my catch ! I understand it's not gonna contribute greatly towards the problem but in my eyes what ever I can do to help is always a plus ! True or not ? cheers, Jez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathsh Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Hey Ben, Your totally right It's just I started fishing with my girlfriends old man n that's where I got my passion for fishing ! He's old school and hates carp n basically told me if I ever went carp fishing to always dispose of my catch f as there pest ! He sort of explained it in a way where i thought it would be illegal if I was to release them ! Well I know better now but I guess it's still each to their own !! For me I don't do much carp fishing at all but when I do I dispose of my catch ! I understand it's not gonna contribute greatly towards the problem but in my eyes what ever I can do to help is always a plus ! True or not ? cheers, Jez I live next to Parra river and was heading to the gym one morning and saw a carp actually jump onto the bank so I took a run up and soccer booted it as far away from the water as possible. It should be illegal to release them back into the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianniz Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Parraman, I'm thinking you are from parramatta??? if so why not fish for carps there? During highschool (13 years ago!!!), we used to go to the bridge (near all the cafes and maccas) and use to have a ball catching them. Also Penrith is good too. As for baits, we used bread and also corns but later we developed a killer bait mixing bread, corn, flour, yeast to make a dough. They great fun to catch if they are around. Great on light tackle. If you're keen on freshwater fishing instead of just carping, go down to Penrith weir, best time would be 1hour before sunset, use worms for Bass (great fighter and good tasting according to my hungarian mate), bread for mullets and you know what to use for carps I live next to Parra river and was heading to the gym one morning and saw a carp actually jump onto the bank so I took a run up and soccer booted it as far away from the water as possible. It should be illegal to release them back into the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclebum Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Thanks everyone for their replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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