Longfish Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Anybody had a go at it?...anybody any good at it? Going to give it a go at some point and was looking for a few pointers from anyone who is in the know...sounds pretty tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the one that got away Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Don't really see why not? A little fly imitating a worm or prawn would be great on whiting on the flats. Only thing is sight casting, once you've seen the fish, the fish 9/10 have already seen you. So be sure to be stealthy and quiet. Try and sneak up on them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderick -angler Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I would approach them the way you approach a bonefish google Peter Morse, he has a popper fly that is deadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgw Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 not too tricky if you can combat the problem of being stealthy enough to get to them before they see you... ... oh and keep an eye out for little stingrays check out my previous posts - i put something up a little while ago on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutboy Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Hi all, as per luderick anglers post ,peter morse has a great whiting popper thats very effective, just make sure you keep it moving at all times .good luck cheers troutboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longfish Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 Cheers, guys...I will google that fly (very slow morning in the office...i will probably have time to tie a couple aswell!)... Mark...I can't find that old thread of yours, even by viewing your old posts from your profile?!..any idea what the thread was called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgw Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 strange..... I can't see it in my posts either.. http://www.fishraider.com.au/Invision/index.php?showtopic=66264 I've upgraded my outfit since that post but still using the same types of flies.. have added a few med / large prawn imitations to the array also. Whiting will hit most flies on flats, just make sure you're mending the line correctly as it's quite easy for a fly to look unnatural especially with the way the current runs across sand flats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) Hi All, Rather than starting a new thread I thought it would be easier to revive an old one. Catching luderick on weed flies has sparked my interest in other species for this coming summer. In particular whiting on the Sydney sandflats. I have a 7 weight rod with both floating and intermediate lines. I've started working out spots where there is an excellent chance of finding whiting and are of wading depth. Looking back through the past Fishraider whiting on fly posts most seem to be going back a few years. I'm hoping to get more recent information and so far my research suggests: try to sight fish for them with a rising sun and polarising glasses as it highlights them in the water ideally a bit of orange or red in the lures has a tendency to attract them let the fly get to the bottom as small sand cloud when you then strip line can get their attention try not to use flies which are long as they will often hit the tail and it makes it difficult to set the hook I've seen some poppers made for fly fishing for whiting but am having a little difficulty deciding which flies to use (I have some shrimp patterns). Is there anyone out there that has been pretty consistent on catching whiting on fly in Sydney and can you suggest some fly patterns and aha moments (e.g. stripping speed). Thanks in advance, Derek Edited August 18, 2020 by DerekD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoods Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Hi Derek, I was thinking of using some of those shrimp patterns from off bait jigs. There's a few around who tie shrimp/prawn type fly patterns that look good. I would love to see a surface strike from a goo whiting. I met a bloke up at Fishermans Reach (South West Rocks) who tied his own and was right into whiting & Bream on fly from his yak. If you chase bream on fly I think you need to learn to tie your own or go broke!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirvin21 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Can't comment on fly but with diving hardbodies whiting like a rapid twitching retrieve with minimal pausing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hornet Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I've targeted them with good success on worm flies, but done better on shrimp/yabby patterns. Wading flats I know they feed on, I cast up current and basically deadstick the fly, letting it drift like a yabby that has been flushed from its hole. If you're quiet, you can wade to within 10 metres of them, no problem, as long as you stay down current and out of their eyesight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) I went on line the other day and purchased: Red worm flies Crazy charlies tied with some red in them A fly which looks very much like a saltwater yabbie (nipper) Some small baitfish profile flies I've already have some shrimp flies. There were one or two other flies (baited breath with small hooks) mentioned during my research which I have to track down. Going to be an interesting learning curve. Edited August 21, 2020 by DerekD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Green Hornet said: I've targeted them with good success on worm flies, but done better on shrimp/yabby patterns. Wading flats I know they feed on, I cast up current and basically deadstick the fly, letting it drift like a yabby that has been flushed from its hole. If you're quiet, you can wade to within 10 metres of them, no problem, as long as you stay down current and out of their eyesight. Thanks for that GH - this is the sort of information I was after. Did you run a floating or intermediate or sinking line? Tippet size? The other thing I've heard is look for water 4 feet or less in depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hornet Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, DerekD said: Thanks for that GH - this is the sort of information I was after. Did you run a floating or intermediate or sinking line? Tippet size? The other thing I've heard is look for water 4 feet or less in depth. I use a floating line with a hand tied, tapered leader. From the fly line I tie roughly 1.5m of 15kg, then 700mm of 6kg to a 1.0m, 3kg tippet. My favourite spot is a large sandflat, riddled with yabby holes. I like to fish water around knee deep, as its easy to wade quietly and spot fish with my polarised sunnies. For clear, shallow water the best approach is cast at an angle to the current and let the fly drift back to them. That way you're not spooking the fish with your fly line directly over them. Try not to use too much angle so you stay in the fish's blind spot. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 13 hours ago, motiondave said: I use a 1/16th #2 hook jighead with a fat garden earthworm on slow retrieve. Hi MD, Matching the hatch.... but is it fly fishing??? Went fly fishing with a mate on Glenbawn dam for bass years ago and he hooked up on a nice bass then admitted he'd "matched the hatch" by getting one of the live grasshoppers we had swarming at that time of year and putting it on the end of his fly line instead of an artificial. It still makes me laugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savit Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 50 minutes ago, DerekD said: Hi MD, Matching the hatch.... but is it fly fishing??? Went fly fishing with a mate on Glenbawn dam for bass years ago and he hooked up on a nice bass then admitted he'd "matched the hatch" by getting one of the live grasshoppers we had swarming at that time of year and putting it on the end of his fly line instead of an artificial. It still makes me laugh. It is similar to squeezing and rubbing the insects into artificial fly, just the next level - full worm/grasshoper replacement . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hornet Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Here's a few flies that have worked well for me, particularly the one top left. Bottom one is store bought, but others tied by myself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) There is an expression that lures catch more fishers than fish... These are some of the ones I've picked up here and there for the sandflats fishing (with a few more on the way)... Top 3 on the left are a shrimp pattern. The green one is referred to as a baited breath. The upper 3 on the right are designed to imitate worms and the three lower ones on the right are a crazy Charlie. The one lowest on the left I've forgotten. I'm trying to find similar but with smaller hook sizes. Now to actually catch some fish with them this spring and summer season... Edited August 24, 2020 by DerekD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hornet Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 For dead sticking the shrimp patterns are the go as they don't require water flowing over their body to take shape. I tie a similar pattern to your lower left one on 1 and 1/0 hooks. I've always known them as silver bombers. Basically a smaller version of the popular barra fly, the gold bomber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I found this article on gear and retrieves for whiting: https://hookedonflies.com.au/hofblog/2016/03/08/target-whiting-poor-mans-bonefish/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I certainly don't profess to be a great fly fisherman, but I do enjoy it, I have caught quite a few decent Whiting with a simple old bread fly while fishing for Mullet, there is a nice flat a few minutes walk from my house, and I often fish there, a bit of bread soaked in water so it sinks, and the bread fly is all I have, and it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) The deliveries are starting to come in and a quick stop at my local tackle shop has rounded off the selection of flies for whiting. I'm mixing it up as much as I can. Some poppers, worms, crazy charlies (with red) and my favourite so far is the yabby imitation. The photos on the website (see below) for the yabbies looked a little better but the actual is close enough that I don't think the fish will care. Bring on the warmer weather and the whiting.... I also have a few bread flies so I will probably end up trying @noelm 's suggestion (thank you for that). Edited August 31, 2020 by DerekD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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