Slow jigging morning session (updated 30.10)

[Chaohuang]

Went for a morning session at 9 mile reef today, mostly just the same stuff: nannygai, flathead, pike, barracouta, sergeant baker, longfin perch. But we did get a few decent kingies this time. Turned the flathead and nannygai into sushi, have you guys tried it before? Flathead is really nice raw.

Edited October 30, 2016 by mshuangchao

[Mike89]

Beautiful couple of fish in the photos there. The king is a real solid size.

Nice plate of sushi also. Have tried raw flathead before, it is quite nice!

Excellent work!

[Chaohuang]

Beautiful couple of fish in the photos there. The king is a real solid size.

Nice plate of sushi also. Have tried raw flathead before, it is quite nice!

Excellent work!

Thanks mate, I just added a short clip!

[Mike89]

Just watched it. Some nice gear you guys are using there!

Awesome vid, keep them coming!

[Captain Spanner]

Has one of the top hooks on that jig been straightened? Possibly by another fish trying to steel the jig from the hooked fish? Or the bottom?

[Chaohuang]

Just watched it. Some nice gear you guys are using there!

Awesome vid, keep them coming!

Thanks again buddy!

Has one of the top hooks on that jig been straightened? Possibly by another fish trying to steel the jig from the hooked fish? Or the bottom?

Good observation! Yes, it got straightened, I probably had two fish on either end of my jig but only landed one!

[jackiean]

hi i was wondering what jigs were used on the day o:

[blackfish angler]

Well done top video and some fine fish

[Chaohuang]

hi i was wondering what jigs were used on the day o:

Hi, these jigs are called slow jigs, they are available in most tackle shops but very people use them in Sydney.

[DezM]

Thanks for sharing the video.

Looks like a top day without much wind or swell.

Must give the micro jigging a try.

Dez

Edited October 16, 2016 by DezM

[Chaohuang]

Thanks for sharing the video.

Looks like a top day without much wind or swell.

Must give the micro jigging a try.

Dez

Yup, it was a fun day!

Micro jigging is different from slow jigging, but you can always give it a try!

Chao

[JonD]

You all look highly skilled in technique, thanks for posting I think more of us will be giving this more effort.

Jon

[Scratchie]

Nice video chao! Even nicer was the photos of the bounty! Yumm! Looks like you've done that before! I think you've talked a few raiders into slow jigging, might even give it a go myself!

Well done

Cheers scratchie!!!

[Chaohuang]

You all look highly skilled in technique, thanks for posting I think more of us will be giving this more effort.

Jon

Nice video chao! Even nicer was the photos of the bounty! Yumm! Looks like you've done that before! I think you've talked a few raiders into slow jigging, might even give it a go myself!

Well done

Cheers scratchie!!!

Thanks guys, I'd like to think I know my stuff when it comes to slow jigging, but there is still much to learn...

It would be great to see more fishos try this out!

[tackleberry]

nice job again

Hi, these jigs are called slow jigs, they are available in most tackle shops but very people use them in Sydney.

i think he means what brand are they ?

[Chaohuang]

nice job again

i think he means what brand are they ?

Thanks buddy... ah, well in that case, it is a "Maxel bumblebee slow jig". Don't think you can get these domestically, but can get the ones from Palms and Shimano, they are also excellent!

[billthedrill]

What gear was that kingy in the final clip caught on?

[Chaohuang]

What gear was that kingy in the final clip caught on?

Hey mate, it was caught on:

Rod: Shimano ocea jigger infinty (Japanese domestic)

Reel:Shimano ocea jigger conquest 300HG (Japanese domestic)

Line:PE 2.5, 40lb mono leader

Jig: 240g Maxel slow jig.

[GordoRetired]

Went for a morning session at 9 mile reef today, mostly just the same stuff: nannygai, flathead, pike, barracouta, sergeant baker, longfin perch. But we did get a few decent kingies this time. Turned the flathead and nannygai into sushi, have you guys tried it before? Flathead is really nice raw.

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I take it that by 9 mile you actually mean the reef called 12 mile, 9 miles straight out but 12 from Sydney Heads.

Been thinking of giving jigging for Kings a go, actually bought another jig yesterday. I see that you run both top and bottom hooks, whereas I have been told to just run a top hook. Interested to understand other views on this Please.

[Chaohuang]

I take it that by 9 mile you actually mean the reef called 12 mile, 9 miles straight out but 12 from Sydney Heads.

Been thinking of giving jigging for Kings a go, actually bought another jig yesterday. I see that you run both top and bottom hooks, whereas I have been told to just run a top hook. Interested to understand other views on this Please.

No, it's actually a few miles short of 12 mile reef, my friend's the captain so he would know more about the exact location than me.

Whether you put hooks on just one side or on both sides depends on the type of jig you are using and the style you will be jigging, if you are into slow jigging, look no further: http://www.anglers-secrets.com/slow-pitch-jigging/

In general, slow pitch jigging is a state-of-the-art jigging technique that has become popular in Japan and now Europe and America. It utilizes the falling action of a center balanced jig to entice bites. It is a finesse game and there is very specialized tackle for this type of fishing, from rod and reels down to the assist line and hooks. Unfortunately, Australia has been rather slow with adopting this new method and a lot of these gear are unavailable domestically. When talking about jigging for kingfish in Sydney, most fishos will think of mechanical jigging or speed jigging. There is nothing wrong with this method, but let me quote this paragraph from the webpage

"No, nothing is wrong with hi-speed jigging. It’s an exciting game and it does work very well in some occasions.

When I first started jigging, I was doing hi-speed jigging. I caught several amberjacks and tunas. The sudden impact from the emptiness of the deep ocean stoke me like a heavy counter punch to my jerking. It was truly devastating. But at the same time, jerking the heavy spinning tackle all day was really exhausting. I didn’t feel my arms at the end of the day. In spite of such a reward when I hit the fish, I started thinking to sell my tackle in auction after my 3rd trip. I’ve met a lot of people with the same experience.

There’s no all-mighty method that works all the time. Fast or slow. But I think understanding hi-speed jigging in comparison with slow-pitch jigging really helps to bring your understanding and awareness to the game. So let’s talk about this.

So the jigging has been a heavy-tackle hard-working muscle-breaking sport.

If you look at it in the evolution of fishing, there was reasons why it had to be this way.

1THE LINES.

There were only Nylon mono-filament and Fluorocarbon fishing lines when jigging was born. They are thick in diameter. And for the strength to catch the kind of fish you target with this method, it had to be really thick. 50lb Nylon line’s diameter is about 0.74mm, while PE line is about 0.41mm thick for the same strength. Because of its thickness, Monofilament and FC line catch more currents, creating a lot of line slack between you and the jig.

Suppose you and your friend are 100m apart with a line in your hand, but your line is out 110m long swinging in high wind, and you are trying to pull the line to move your friend on the other end. Very little you can do. This is what you get when the thick line catches the currents before reaching the bottom.

Plus, what makes it even more difficult is that these lines stretch to tensions. Monofilament stretches 20% to 45% before breaking, FC stretches 17% to 37%, while PE only stretches 4%. So if you are jigging with mono or FC, the line stretches may cancel all your actions.

As a result, if you are jigging with these lines, you need to jerk big and strong and reel fast, fast, fast, just to move the jig.

2THE BOAT.

Most jigging boats were free-drifting back then. This creates the same problem of the line slack as #1. The best way to do jigging is that the jig goes straight down. It means you are linked with the jig directly with a straight line. This way you have a very good control over your jig.

See more detail > WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE SO VERTICAL FOR SLOW PITCH JIGGING? →In order to maintain such vertical alignment in currents and winds, the jigging boats in Japan now have the spankers or at least sea-anchors, which align the boat upwind.

Spanker is the aft sail that keeps the boat heading toward the wind. With an occasional little forward throttle, you can cancel the influence of the wind. It enables you to move along with the current, and all the lines and the jigs, keeping them straight down. Now most Japanese jigging boats have this sail. It’s difficult, however, when there’s very little winds but comes from random directions.

Sea-anchor, or drogue, is like a parachute in the water. The wind tries to push the boat, and you drop the parachute and it puts the break on the wind influence. This is the minimum requirement for the slow pitch. Unlike Spanker, you can’t control to move with the current, and it becomes really difficult when the wind and the current are going to opposite directions.

3ANGLER’S ASSUMPTIONS.

When the jigging came out on the fishing scene, everyone doubted how the fish could possibly bite on the chunk of metal. So it’s in our head that we should move it fast fast fast so that the fish would not have time to examine what they are biting on. Only now we are understanding that it’s mainly the hydrodynamic vibrations of the motions that the fish react to. And the shape of the jig has been refined and modeled in different styles that they make all kinds of actions. Now some even say “Don’t try to move the jig. Let the jig do the job.”

These are the reasons why the jigging has developed toward faster motions and heavier tackles.

And Slow-Pitch Jigging came out of this evolution. And knowing the difference and the evolution helped me understand more about how to set up and use the reel, the rod, the line, and the jig."

Hope this helps.

Chao H.

Edited October 18, 2016 by mshuangchao

[GordoRetired]

No, it's actually a few miles short of 12 mile reef, my friend's the captain so he would know more about the exact location than me.

Whether you put hooks on just one side or on both sides depends on the type of jig you are using and the style you will be jigging, if you are into slow jigging, look no further: http://www.anglers-secrets.com/slow-pitch-jigging/

In general, slow pitch jigging is a state-of-the-art jigging technique that has become popular in Japan and now Europe and America. It utilizes the falling action of a center balanced jig to entice bites. It is a finesse game and there is very specialized tackle for this type of fishing, from rod and reels down to the assist line and hooks. Unfortunately, Australia has been rather slow with adopting this new method and a lot of these gear are unavailable domestically. When talking about jigging for kingfish in Sydney, most fishos will think of mechanical jigging or speed jigging. There is nothing wrong with this method, but let me quote this paragraph from the webpage

"No, nothing is wrong with hi-speed jigging. It’s an exciting game and it does work very well in some occasions.

When I first started jigging, I was doing hi-speed jigging. I caught several amberjacks and tunas. The sudden impact from the emptiness of the deep ocean stoke me like a heavy counter punch to my jerking. It was truly devastating. But at the same time, jerking the heavy spinning tackle all day was really exhausting. I didn’t feel my arms at the end of the day. In spite of such a reward when I hit the fish, I started thinking to sell my tackle in auction after my 3rd trip. I’ve met a lot of people with the same experience.

There’s no all-mighty method that works all the time. Fast or slow. But I think understanding hi-speed jigging in comparison with slow-pitch jigging really helps to bring your understanding and awareness to the game. So let’s talk about this.

So the jigging has been a heavy-tackle hard-working muscle-breaking sport.

If you look at it in the evolution of fishing, there was reasons why it had to be this way.

1THE LINES.

There were only Nylon mono-filament and Fluorocarbon fishing lines when jigging was born. They are thick in diameter. And for the strength to catch the kind of fish you target with this method, it had to be really thick. 50lb Nylon line’s diameter is about 0.74mm, while PE line is about 0.41mm thick for the same strength. Because of its thickness, Monofilament and FC line catch more currents, creating a lot of line slack between you and the jig.

Suppose you and your friend are 100m apart with a line in your hand, but your line is out 110m long swinging in high wind, and you are trying to pull the line to move your friend on the other end. Very little you can do. This is what you get when the thick line catches the currents before reaching the bottom.

Plus, what makes it even more difficult is that these lines stretch to tensions. Monofilament stretches 20% to 45% before breaking, FC stretches 17% to 37%, while PE only stretches 4%. So if you are jigging with mono or FC, the line stretches may cancel all your actions.

As a result, if you are jigging with these lines, you need to jerk big and strong and reel fast, fast, fast, just to move the jig.

2THE BOAT.

Most jigging boats were free-drifting back then. This creates the same problem of the line slack as #1. The best way to do jigging is that the jig goes straight down. It means you are linked with the jig directly with a straight line. This way you have a very good control over your jig.

See more detail > WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE SO VERTICAL FOR SLOW PITCH JIGGING? →In order to maintain such vertical alignment in currents and winds, the jigging boats in Japan now have the spankers or at least sea-anchors, which align the boat upwind.

Spanker is the aft sail that keeps the boat heading toward the wind. With an occasional little forward throttle, you can cancel the influence of the wind. It enables you to move along with the current, and all the lines and the jigs, keeping them straight down. Now most Japanese jigging boats have this sail. It’s difficult, however, when there’s very little winds but comes from random directions.

Sea-anchor, or drogue, is like a parachute in the water. The wind tries to push the boat, and you drop the parachute and it puts the break on the wind influence. This is the minimum requirement for the slow pitch. Unlike Spanker, you can’t control to move with the current, and it becomes really difficult when the wind and the current are going to opposite directions.

3ANGLER’S ASSUMPTIONS.

When the jigging came out on the fishing scene, everyone doubted how the fish could possibly bite on the chunk of metal. So it’s in our head that we should move it fast fast fast so that the fish would not have time to examine what they are biting on. Only now we are understanding that it’s mainly the hydrodynamic vibrations of the motions that the fish react to. And the shape of the jig has been refined and modeled in different styles that they make all kinds of actions. Now some even say “Don’t try to move the jig. Let the jig do the job.”

These are the reasons why the jigging has developed toward faster motions and heavier tackles.

And Slow-Pitch Jigging came out of this evolution. And knowing the difference and the evolution helped me understand more about how to set up and use the reel, the rod, the line, and the jig."

Hope this helps.

Chao H.

Thanks H, that was a good read.

If you stoped a few miles short of 12 mile I am thinking that you fished The Peak. Tried there a 5 or 6 weeks ago but the current was too strong to hold the bottom.

[Chaohuang]

Thanks H, that was a good read.

If you stoped a few miles short of 12 mile I am thinking that you fished The Peak. Tried there a 5 or 6 weeks ago but the current was too strong to hold the bottom.

No worries mate! BTW the name is Chao, haha!

[GordoRetired]

No worries mate! BTW the name is Chao, haha!

And I thought you were just being cool with the Spanish 'Chao H'... woops. :-)

[Chaohuang]

And I thought you were just being cool with the Spanish 'Chao H'... woops. :-)

Haha, yeah the name is confusing at times, no worries buddy!

[arty9]

I'm trying some jigging in a couple weeks off a charter through sydney heads. Gear on the light side with 20pd braid (heavier leader prob 40-50pd) and jigs at 100g and 85g. Hopefully good enough to get down. Been a while between fishing dates to, so quite excited. Thanks for the tips to Chao

Be nice to put a report in on some fish too