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Hey Guys, just wondering if anyone has any advice/experience with using squid as live bait off Sydney rocks for kingfish. I've got a raider snapper rod and 4000 reel.
Thanks
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4 hours ago, kingie chaser said:
Didn't think to ask that question but yes more info at the start of the thread helps in the search for the right answers!
Rock fishing
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4 hours ago, motiondave said:
@Will Wright , what areas are you fishing ? from shore or boat?
time and tides can make a difference, and no , I dont fish early morning , sometimes late afternoon. Most of my fishing is done middle of the day.
different areas can require different baits. If you are getting wrasse, then Id guess you are fishing off rocks.
flathead, bream, tervally, the usual "rubbish" , are not usually found in wrasse areas, at least thats what ive found
As said by @wazatherfisherman , good bait can help.
Im 99% bait fishing myself.
I use, raw chicken breast strips covered in Parmesan cheese, fresh or frozen bait prawns.
coles, woolies or cheap asian owned fish shops sell banana prawns raw, cut into chunks.
I get live bait prawns ones these days at 50c each, as my catch rate has done better, although some days they only chew on a dirty bit of pilchard.
Salted pilchards can work well, squid not so much, unless im chasing something specific in a certain area (beach fishing)
garden earthworms work well on a soft plastic jig head ive found, hook worm on, cast, very slow retrieve,
Id suggest head down to tackle shop and look for this book
https://afn.com.au/product/landbased-fishing-guide-to-sydney-area/
well worth the $10
I saw copies at a shop yesterday when I was there. Ive got my own copy of it
Yeah thanks mate, I'm usually rock fishing
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2 hours ago, kingie chaser said:
You might get something from this?
Thanks guys, I have a lighter rod in the 2 to 3 kg rating and a heavier one in the 8kg rating, I use 15lb braid on the big one and just 7lb on the small one. I want to target really anything a decent size, flathead, kingfish, big trevally etc. I have been fishing with strips of squid on both rods and all I catch is little fish.
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Can someone help me? I am fishing with bait and sick of catching small fish like wrasse etc. Does anyone have bait fishing tips to help me catch bigger fish?
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On 12/14/2019 at 9:15 PM, DerekD said:
For most of your fishing I think 160m will be enough. I doubt I've ever seen more than 100m off my Stradic 4000. I went the full spool (270 -300m) of braid on a "what if" basis and I can afford it. When the time comes your challenge will be ripping off enough of the mono backing so that the spool fills properly to the top with the braid.
Before you spool it up grab the spool of braid and a spool of leader and take the time to practice your joiner knots. Test them out properly - even take a couple to breaking point to get a feel for it. Once you are confident you have mastered the joiner knots then you can look at replacing a lot of your mono with braid.
Thanks. What do you mean by ripping off enough of the mono to make sure it fills to the top with braid?
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On 12/12/2019 at 11:14 PM, DerekD said:
Hi Will,
With the rod and reel you have invested in I think it is worth getting into braid a little down the track. Once you have learned to fish braid and the little tricks then it is hard to go back. Sensitivity is awesome. Improved casting distance. Going to state the obvious - the experience comes with trying things. Don't let that put you off. Plenty of information out there. The financial thing is another matter.
I learned the double uni knot from a knot book which came with Berkley fireline. Used it happily for over a decade. Also learned the Surgeon's joiner knot (very easy). Found out later on that doubling the braid in the double uni made the knot even stronger.
These days I mostly use the FG knot but it took a while for me to make the jump. I'd seen plenty of videos on tying the FG knot but I wasn't happy with most due to the hassle of keeping tension in the line and line wastage. One of the Fishraiders posted the following video but I use a different finish than the half hitches shown and you will see that in the second link:
Now the finish of the knot can be found at a little after five minutes on this link:
I can manage to do it with the really fine lines but that has taken a bit of practice. With 10lb braid or heavier it comes up a treat. Generally my leaders are 50% to 100% more than my main line.
Regards,
Derek
Thanks Derek. I have got 160m of 15lb braid sitting in my shed and I'm wondering would that be enough?
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On 10/14/2019 at 7:15 AM, DerekD said:
Hi Will,
For my smaller reels I top shot (150 yards/metres of braid with mono backing to make up the difference) but with both my Stradic 4000 reels I went braid all the way. On older one I have about 300m of 15lb braid and newer model has about 270m of 15lb braid. For the sake of saving $20 or $30 on the line cost I didn't want to hook the fish of a lifetime then worry about the backing and joiner knot as it is flying off the spool. Just something to consider. First meter of line on both reels is mono to ensure it locks in to the spool. Other option is to stick it down.
Regards,
Derek
I have 15lb mono on the stradic 4000 at the moment and I'm wondering would it be worth it spending the extra bit of money buying 15lb braid and putting a 30lb leader on? The thing I am concerned about is that I am not experienced at tying leader to braid.
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5 hours ago, DerekD said:
Hi Will,
Short answer is yes - but that it didn't have FK written on the spool left me a little uncertain.
The Snapper Raider 762 rod was a present to me over a decade ago from my mother so I wanted a nice reel for it and matched it with the Stradic 4000FI (which I still use and which still performs very well) and 15lb braid. A couple of years ago while putting the Stradic in for service when the kings were around I bought a Sedona with 15lb braid which I now use when I want to take the rod out on the kayak. If it gets wet a $90 reel is less painful to damage than a $200 plus reel. While in my local fishing store I saw and picked up the Stradic 4000 FK and thought why not. It is the least used of my 4000 reels but such a nice reel. The new FL looks really nice but I can't justify it (yet).
On a related matter - how have you been going with the new rod and lures?
Regards,
Derek
I have been going quite well with the new gear. I have only caught two rat kings on the metal lures on the Avoca rocks, But I’ve caught a lot of trevally around the 30-40cm mark. I’m going to try for kings off Clarke’s point this weekend.
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On 10/10/2019 at 12:36 PM, DerekD said:
Hi Will,
The problem with fishing off the rocks is not just hooking and fighting the fish it is landing them. I was using a Shimano raider snapper 762 (15-45gm lure weight) a 4000 Shimano Stradic c/w 15lb braid and 30lb leader. I ended up dead lifting a couple of kings. I prefer a shorter rod than some of the other people off the rocks as I try and get a lot of lure movement with the sluggo/slapstix lures I like using and I struggle to achieve this with the longer rods. I do lose a bit of casting distance.
I also picked up a Daiwa Saltist Hyper 7ft PE3/5 (60-120gm lure weight) and matched it with a Daiwa BG5000 and a fine 50lb braid. The reel I can switch between that rod and the 9 foot 6 Saltist Hyper I also own if I want that extra bit of distance.
Good luck.
Derek
Hey Derek do you have the Stradic 4000 fk?
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2 hours ago, 61 crusher said:
You could also use layer pellets & add a bit of water to expand & break up, another idea for those pots is to cut a length of Pipe that fits between the socket & cap & cut 1/3 off length ways & slip over then drill holes through both pipes then twist pipe till all holes are covered, mince all the burley up & pack in & then put in the freezer. When you go to use the pot you can control the release rate with the outer pipe
That’s a good idea! Might give that a try
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I might have a go with some stick baits while heavily burleying.
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Hey guys, I’ve heard a few things about fishing off Clarkes Point (Sydney) It seems as though it’s a good spot for catching kingfish. Anyone got any suggestions or methods to catching kings off this area?
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Hey guys I'm after some advice on using burley from the rocks. I am targeting kingfish with metal lures. Does anyone know any good burley recipes for Kings and ways to dispense the burley without it running out in 10 minutes?
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I'll be mainly landbased
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58 minutes ago, mii11x said:
Nearly all soft plastics work for flathead mate, all you gotta do is keep bouncing them off the bottom. Jig head weight will depend on the water depth your fishing really. Where abouts you fishing?
Hey mate I’ll be fishing in 2-5m depth
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Hey guys kinda new to lure fishing and just want some advice on which lures and which weight jig heads for flathead. I've got the raider snapper 15 to 45g cast weight with a stradic 4000. Any recommendations?
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Hey guys I'm 18 and 190cm tall I'm going to be fishing mainly north Sydney but am heading down to tasmania on a bit of a fishing trip soon.
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A lot of you guys are saying 7ft isn’t great for the rocks. Anyone have any suggestions to match with the Shimano Stradic 4000? Going to use off the rocks and throw metal lures to catch kings. (Price range 100-200)
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Hey guys, I’ve fished for a very long time but mainly with bait. I’ve always used my right hand for reeling and I’m right handed. I’m just about to get started with lure fishing (mainly on the rocks) and I am buying a new combo. What are your guys’ thoughts on left or right handed reels. Any suggestions for me starting the lure fishing game using a left or right handed reel?
thanks
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6 minutes ago, DerekD said:
It will be fine but personally I chase most of my flathead on my bream finesse. Was introducing a father and son to soft plastics on Sunday and the son picked up a nice 60cm flattie on a 2-4kg rod with 4lb braid. Your rod will kill it but it will be a challenge fishing the ultralight lures.
Ok thanks!
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14 hours ago, DerekD said:
Hi Will,
For my smaller reels I top shot (150 yards/metres of braid with mono backing to make up the difference) but with both my Stradic 4000 reels I went braid all the way. On older one I have about 300m of 15lb braid and newer model has about 270m of 15lb braid. For the sake of saving $20 or $30 on the line cost I didn't want to hook the fish of a lifetime then worry about the backing and joiner knot as it is flying off the spool. Just something to consider. First meter of line on both reels is mono to ensure it locks in to the spool. Other option is to stick it down.
Regards,
Derek
Thanks for all the info Derek!
This combo is also suitable for flatties right?
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23 hours ago, DerekD said:
Mind??? Not at all. I've recommended the Snapper Raider and the smaller Bream Finesse to a number of people over the years and coincidently today. If I damaged mine I'd probably buy another. It is an excellent combination. If you ever get down to the lower North shore I'd be happy to show you how effectively it can be used for a variety of lures. With the schools of kingfish due to arrive in numbers in Sydney over the next two months your timing is excellent.
Yes I do have some recommendations. My go to for kings are the 6 and 9 inch (pink or white) slapstix used with a TT bullet head jig head and XH hook. 20 and 30gm halco twisties. Phatt blatz flutter jigs. Size 3 squid jigs. More later. We also do well send down stripped squid pieces unweighted through the water column. I like either a 5/0 mustad light gauge circle hook or a Gamakatsu 5/0 or 6/0 circle hook.
Thanks for all the info Derek!n
this combo is also suitable for catching flatties right?
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On 10/10/2019 at 12:36 PM, DerekD said:
Hi Will,
The problem with fishing off the rocks is not just hooking and fighting the fish it is landing them. I was using a Shimano raider snapper 762 (15-45gm lure weight) a 4000 Shimano Stradic c/w 15lb braid and 30lb leader. I ended up dead lifting a couple of kings. I prefer a shorter rod than some of the other people off the rocks as I try and get a lot of lure movement with the sluggo/slapstix lures I like using and I struggle to achieve this with the longer rods. I do lose a bit of casting distance.
I also picked up a Daiwa Saltist Hyper 7ft PE3/5 (60-120gm lure weight) and matched it with a Daiwa BG5000 and a fine 50lb braid. The reel I can switch between that rod and the 9 foot 6 Saltist Hyper I also own if I want that extra bit of distance.
Good luck.
Derek
Hi, I prefer to use a shorter rod as well. I find it lighter and easier to control the lure and give it a more realistic action. Hope you don’t mind Derek but I think I’ve made my mind up and think I’m going to go with the raider snapper rod and the Stradic 4000. Does anyone have any lure recommendations to use off the rocks in and around Sydney with this setup (15-45g lure weight).
Will
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Sorry for the dull question. I'm trying to see what rigs to use and what size squid to use.