mate let me tell you about okuma, obviously you get what you pay for, but if you go up the scale to okumas more expensive stuff (which isnt that expensive anyway, the reason being okuma dosnt have the same name as daiwa or shimano) you'll be pleasantly suprised.... i refer to the "salina" range, i own 2 okuma sa80's.... these reels look good, feel good, have got lovley drag system, and i would not hesitate in recomending them, the thing i like about them most is the thick bail arm and the black and gold colour.