Albright Vs Double Uni

[kbark]

Here's a follow up quesion from my recent pittwater report. My albright knot snapped with a kingy 10ft from the boat. I had 11 turns of the 15lb braid around 15lb seaguar fluorocarbon.

Do I need to tie a double in the braid before tying the albright. (I do this for 30lb braid to 50lb leader). If so, in what line weight is this necessary?

Should I just stick to the double uni? (I have never had one of these fail)

Cheers,

Kit

Edited April 11, 2007 by kbark

[shane87]

Stick to the double uni. I have never had one of them fail and they seem to fly through the guides a bit better than the albright also.

Cheers Shane.

[Guest rzep]

I have abondoned the uni and albright in favour of the 5 turn surgeons knot which up to this stage has been fantastic

Cheers Stewy

Stewy showed me this knot yesterday and it is very strong and easy to tie.

[netic]

I have abondoned the uni and albright in favour of the 5 turn surgeons knot which up to this stage has been fantastic

Cheers Stewy

Stewy, would you recommend the surgeons on heavy gear...say 80lb braid to 50 pound mono???

Edited April 11, 2007 by netic

[TheDiko]

I've just had a Double-Uni fail on me today, luckily it was testing the drag and not during a cast like has happened in past times and has cost me about 20 bucks worth of lures

I like the 8 turn Albright knot, very strong indeed

[Kingy]

I use 30lb braid on my main lines and 60 to 80lb jinkai leaders. I tie a double in the braid and then use the double to tie a double uni with the leader. 8 wraps for the doubled braid, and 4 wraps for the heavy leader. Never failed me.

I use a swivel in the system now and tie a uni from the doubled braid main line to a ball bearing swivel, and then a uni to the swivel from the leader. works a treat. I even use a uni to the hoodlum hooks I use.

The only problems I have encountered is with over 1 year old berkley fireline in 30lbs. It's snaps above the double if a quick but small shock is put on the line from a fish. Solved the brittle line problem by using Platypus super braid. Never had a problem with this line.

good luck.

Kingy

[kbark]

I use 30lb braid on my main lines and 60 to 80lb jinkai leaders. I tie a double in the braid and then use the double to tie a double uni with the leader. 8 wraps for the doubled braid, and 4 wraps for the heavy leader. Never failed me.

I use a swivel in the system now and tie a uni from the doubled braid main line to a ball bearing swivel, and then a uni to the swivel from the leader. works a treat. I even use a uni to the hoodlum hooks I use.

The only problems I have encountered is with over 1 year old berkley fireline in 30lbs. It's snaps above the double if a quick but small shock is put on the line from a fish. Solved the brittle line problem by using Platypus super braid. Never had a problem with this line.

good luck.

Kingy

thanks Kingy...you tie the braid straight to the swivel with an 8 wrap uni?

[Kingy]

thanks Kingy...you tie the braid straight to the swivel with an 8 wrap uni?

Yeah, I tie the braid straight to the swivel, however the braid has been doubled with either a bimini or a spider hitch. I've heard not to trust spider hitches, but they are so easy/quick to tie I can't not use them. I haven't had one fail me yet (maybe a 1.2m kingy will fully test it one day).

I use only about 6 wraps in the uni if the braid has been doubled, seems not to need the extra wraps when doubled. I also re-tie all my main line doubles and uni's every other trip.

Kingy

[kbark]

Yeah, I tie the braid straight to the swivel, however the braid has been doubled with either a bimini or a spider hitch. I've heard not to trust spider hitches, but they are so easy/quick to tie I can't not use them. I haven't had one fail me yet (maybe a 1.2m kingy will fully test it one day).

I use only about 6 wraps in the uni if the braid has been doubled, seems not to need the extra wraps when doubled. I also re-tie all my main line doubles and uni's every other trip.

Kingy

cheers Kingy