kingfishercam Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Gday raiders, im always trying new rigs for kings to find the best working so i can prepare a few rigs before i go , but id like to find out what the most popular rig is used by most of you guys. please take a second to let me know as every little tip counts to me. cheers and happy fishing.cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Hi kingfishercam A pretty standard dead bait kingfish rig would be as follows - running round sinker to a bead and swivel, bead to protect the braid knot from sinker impact. About a fifty centimetre leader to a mustard hoodlum hook say 7/0 which also can be used for live bait. The short shank of the hoodlum hook does not give too much leaway for head shake and hook throw. You could snell knot a second hook and have it trailing a livie or hooked thru a squid strip etc. You can experiment with a teaser with trebbles hanging off the treaser swivel etc There are other variations worth evaluating. Cheers jewgaffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Hey Kingfishercam, Jewgaffer's suggestions are spot on. There are heaps of variations we all use but they're essentially the same and often come down to personal preference. For live bait on either the down rigger or otherwise, I use 2 hook rigs. A larger top hook (I've just started using a sliding snell to attach this guy and it seems to be working really well, allowing me to adjust the distance between the hooks to suit the bait) and a slightly smaller stinger - I use either trebles or singles and don't seem to have much difference in catch rate but the singles are much easier to store as ready made rigs. Hook size for me is decided by the bait size. Yesterday we were using little jellybean Yakkas so I was using a 2/0 top hook and a 1/0 stinger... I use various brands of hooks but Owner make great, extra strong hooks in those small sizes. For bigger baits I go up to bigger hooks but usually no more than about a 5/0 top hook and 3/0 stinger. For fishing squid strips I usually use a single hook rig tied like Jewgaffer suggested but I use circle hooks (personal preference again) pinned once through the top of the bait with LOTS of hook exposure. I use either Black Magic KL's, Gamakatsu Octopus Circles or Owner Mutus... all really good patterns but the KLs are my prefferred option (I think I just like them coz they're really black!! lol). I always go out with my rigs ready made in little plastic wallets. I have a crimped loop in the end of each so rigging for me just involves tying on a snap swivel and clipping on the rig. I can swap rigs to suit different baits and fishing styles in a couple of seconds. Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbielites Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Slinky, What size leader do you use and haw many crimps do you put on? I always use 2 crimps on 60lb and have never had a failure there. Robbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inhlanzi Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 G'day Kingfishercam This is more or less the rig for Yakkas - this can be used on a downrigger or a "poormans downrigger" or just dropped down or floated down to the school. Everybody has their own small changes but this is the main conept. Cheers inhlanzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livo Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Brilliant. Great illustration inhlanzi. Makes me want to go fishing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 That is an excellent example of a lethal kingfish rig Inhlanzi. I like the idea of firmly hooking one of the trebble hooks right in the tan track. It would hang in there very well. Wouldn't harm the fish all that much and I reckon every predator in the neighbourhood would hark to the sounds of irritation around the cyber Cheers mate jewgaffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfishercam Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 I am impressed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanx to every reply i got , i am satisfied now and know what my rig plans are now , i have all different setups but have never used the sliding snell , i will have to go and look up for knots so i can learn it. cheers to everyone.cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderick59 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 its a long time since i fished for kings proberly a bit old fashioned instead of a sinker use a halco chrome 3oz tailor lure or similar with hooks removed swivel each end 40cm trace to a 5o to 7o hook this rig used to work well with occy leg and squid strips lurealso acts as a flasher to attract them peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Slinky, What size leader do you use and haw many crimps do you put on? I always use 2 crimps on 60lb and have never had a failure there. Robbie. G'day Robbie, I just use a single crimp and while I usually tend to get Jinkai crimps, it doesn't seem to matter when I use much cheaper ones (at the end of the day they're just aluminium that gets mushed up anyway). I match the breaking strain of line to the hook size (which is in turn matched to bait size) so with smaller baits I end up fishing a more lightweight rig... it helps present the smaller baits better and keep them healthy longer. Usually 40lb with small hooks, 60lb with bigger and 80-100lb for really big baits. Mostly 40 or 60 in the harbour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livo Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 That is an excellent example of a lethal kingfish rig Inhlanzi. I like the idea of firmly hooking one of the trebble hooks right in the tan track. It would hang in there very well. Wouldn't harm the fish all that much and I reckon every predator in the neighbourhood would hark to the sounds of irritation around the cyber Cheers mate jewgaffer I reckon you'd be a bit irritated too with one third of a treble carefully placed in the main vein. Cycling to work would be out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangkie Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 its a long time since i fished for kings proberly a bit old fashioned instead of a sinker use a halco chrome 3oz tailor lure or similar with hooks removed swivel each end 40cm trace to a 5o to 7o hook this rig used to work well with occy leg and squid strips lurealso acts as a flasher to attract them peter This is a top rig!! you can also upsize the jig to 200gm and there is your downrigger with built in flasher/teaser although mabe increase the leader to at least a meter. this ia a cheap way to slow troll your livies/ squid etc, more importantly it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherdad Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I like the diagram and with 5 non fishing days left in the week I have plenty of time to work it out. Can someone explain explain the "Poormans Downrigger" Thanks David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruzenvax Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Tha way I've been told to set this up is to use a heavy knife jug (300g) as a sinker on with of the rigs described here, e.g. main -> swivel -> jig ->swivel -> leader ->hook(s). When slowly trolled this goes down relatively deep (not as deep as downrigger, but still deep). HTH Alex Can someone explain explain the "Poormans Downrigger" Thanks David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherdad Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Planning on chasing a Kingfish on Saturday in the Harbour. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Planning to throw some fresh squid around, Trolling Lures and Yakkas maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 land based: i go for a basic beach rig using a crossline swivel with a snelled hook rig using a fresh squidbait/whole pillie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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