coastspinna Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 have your say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mrmoshe Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I think it's a Bar Rock Cod or called a Convict Grouper http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=6574 Cheers, Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 michaelrdoyle@gmail.com Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Other option is the Rock Cale. Other discussion is here Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 coastspinna Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) i am sure its an epinephelus of some description, great advice pete... the main difference between the two seem to be that the convict groupers last stripe on the tail seems to go all the way to the bottom of the tail where ;on the black cod (or black saddle cod)... the last stripe is shallower and saddle shaped, like in my pic.... http://www.asfb.org.au/research/tsp/tfp_brockcod.htm or here http://www.julianrocks.net/fish/bigfish/bi...Damelii1040.jpg sorry mike its not a cale, that other discussion you refer to is not relevant here...they are nothing alike.... look at the dorsal fin( it starts near the head on the cale), mouth( the mystery fish has a cavernous mouth) and tail for starters(one is concave and one is convex)...plus they don't really look anything alike... thx guys keep up the good work ian Edited February 20, 2008 by flathead fanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 slinkymalinky Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I'd agree with Black Rockcod too except that Sea Fishes of Souther Australia lists the maximum size as 1.55m. This one must be a new-born!! Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mrmoshe Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 yep..I think you are right with the Black Rock Cod and not the Grouper...subtle differences eh? Both their mothers must have slept around a bit on the sea bed Sure good to see some different species posted...not that I'm sick of looking at Kingies or Marlin by any means. Cheers, Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 coastspinna Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 i looked this one up a bit before i posted this and i thought it might be interesting......i think i have seen them while diving but i am not 100%.... these guys are true groupers, unlike our blue groper which is a wrasse ...confused? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Josh88 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 (edited) Don't mean to rain on everyones parade but isn't this the same fish that everyone was calling as an estuary cod a few weeks ago under the topic "some sort of cod'? Josh Edited February 21, 2008 by Josh88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 coastspinna Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 Don't mean to rain on everyones parade but isn't this the same fish that everyone was calling as an estuary cod a few weeks ago under the topic "some sort of cod'? Josh hard to compare as there was no photo of that fish: same family different fish i think...maybe that one was a black cod too lol...my first thoughts when i caught him were ooh an estuary cod, but the saddle shape last stripe makes me tnink black sadldle cod... where is BF on this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Blackfish Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 My guess is a Black Cod also. The tail with the dark edge convinces me. They are not common but not uncommon when your diving. I've seen them at Avalon, Newport, Long Reef, Cape Banks, Dead mans. Saw what I believe was a huge one in Botany about 10 years ago (Might have been a Estuary) but it was a large COD. Mate caught a tiny one up near Avoca live baiting one afternoon that i guess was about 30cm long and took a live Yakka.....greedy little bugger . Estuary Cod have more spots than blotches and Convict Cod/ Grouper have a different Dorsal . My tupence worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 michaelrdoyle@gmail.com Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 You guys are right about the mouth on Cale VS picture.... been busy in hospital the last few days - caught a big one! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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