PPSGT Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) I went to dinner a while ago, and my mum just loves the pokies! After sitting behind her saying: "we've run out of weetbix, and everyone in the cars hungry" "No, not the centrelink cheque again!" and rubbing her shoulders like a boxing coach and saying: "come on champ, youre down but not out, we can win back the rent money, just use the credit card" I found a book placed near the ATM "Problem Gambling - A Guide for Partners and Family Members" With my new found piece of weaponary I began to read it out a loud while she played. After a minute or two of igoring me, she revived from her pokie induced coma, and said "change the word Gambling to Fishing and see how it reads!, it wont be so funny then" After the first page of reading, it dawned on me, and I began to feel ill, here's how it read: (the only editing I have done is changed one word "gambling" to "fishing") Contents 1. Is this guide for you? 2. What is a fishing problem? 3. How does problem fishing affect partners and family members? 4. How does problem fishing affect children? 5. Why can’t I get him or her to stop fishing? 6. How can there be benefits from fishing when so much is being lost? 7. Is there anything I can do? 1. Is this guide for you? If you have any concerns about the fishing of someone who is close to you, then this booklet is for you. A partner is anyone who is sharing their daily life with the person with a fishing problem (e.g. wife/husband, defacto, boyfriend/girlfriend, including gay relationships). A family member is anyone involved in the extended family of the person with the fishing problem (e.g. parents, adult children, aunts & uncles, brothers and sisters, cousins). Some family members may not be blood relations, and could include a close friend. Some of you will not be involved personally in the financial affairs of the family member or friend with a fishing problem and so some sections of this guide may not directly apply to you. However, most of the guide will be helpful. Even if you do not think it is likely that your partner/family member will stop fishing, you will find the practical ideas in this guide very helpful in managing your responses to his or her fishing behaviour, and for taking care of yourself emotionally, physically, financially and legally. You may choose to invite friends or family members to look through this booklet so they will be able to understand how best to support you 2. What is a fishing problem? Your partner or family member has a fishing problem if they are (tick the ones that apply): Spending too much time fishing or too much time thinking about fishing, neglecting other important activities (e.g. time with you and your family, work, leisure activities). Fishing to try to escape worries, low mood & problems. Finding it difficult not to go fishing at every opportunity, or finding it difficult to stop fishing once they have started. Spending too much money on fishing so that the household cannot meet basic needs (e.g. mortgage/rent, food & clothing, power, health, education, transport, recreational activity). Getting into debt because of fishing. Trying to win back their fishing losses. If you have ticked just one of the above, then it is likely that your partner or family member has a problem with their fishing that results in harm to your relationship and family. 3. How does problem fishing affect partners and family members? Common consequences for partners and family members are given below. Tick the ones that apply to you and your family. We are struggling financially. Money set aside for bills will often be spent on fishing. I am highly distressed after discovering that joint assets have been spent on fishing (e.g. savings account emptied, super funds gone, mortgage extended) or I have incurred debts on joint accounts. My relationship is breaking-down. My partner/family member can only think about fishing. I have lost trust because of his or her secretive fishing and because I was lied to. We argue over fishing and other related issues. I am angry with my partner/family member. We are no longer intimate. Our family is breaking-down. 4. How does problem fishing affect children? Children are very aware of their parents stress and worries. Children will respond differently according to their age and individual natures, but common responses include (tick those that apply to your family): Feeling anxious, depressed. Children can have a strong sense of loss (a loss of family togetherness, a loss of trust, a loss of security). Feeling angry. Children say that it is very unfair that they should suffer because of a parent's excessive fishing. Most kids are very sensitive to a lack of new clothing and insufficient money to go on school excursions, etc. Boredom if they have to accompany a parent to a fishing venue. Poor health. Poor school performance, or refusing to go to school. Withdrawal from friends and activities they may stop asking their friends around home, especially when there is conflict at home between their parents or an obvious shortage of money. 5. Why can't I get him or her to stop fishing? A person who has is fishing heavily will not stop fishing until he/she thinks and feels that the disadvantages of fishing outweigh the benefits. It is difficult to change a habit like fishing, especially when the person is trying to win back losses. People cut-down or stop fishing when they believe that change is necessary. 6. How can there be benefits from fishing when so much is being lost? From your point of view, there may be no benefits from your partner/family member's fishing. But, it's a different story from your partner/family member's viewpoint. Which of the following do you think might be a motive for his or her fishing addiction? excitement the challenge relaxation the chance to win money (or recover losses) to socialise to escape from stress or anxiety or grief Now it may be clear to you why your partner/family member will cut-down or stop fishing only when they are ready to! Only when your partner/family member truly believes that they are: spending too much time fishing thinking about fishing too much losing control over their fishing losing their relationships/family no longer working productively will they decide that it is time to do something about their fishing 7. Is there anything I can do? Yes! There are a number of things you can do. 1. Give-up blaming yourself If you feel to blame in some way for the fishing problem, remind yourself that hundreds of thousands of Australians have fishing problems. There are many opportunities to go fishing, and it is all too easy to get into trouble with fishing. Also, if you stop taking responsibility for changing your partner/family member's behaviour, you can begin to distance yourself from his or her fishing problem and begin to take care of your and your family’s needs. 2. Get help and support It is very difficult to cope alone when a partner/family member has a fishing problem. Here are some suggestions: • Talking to someone within your own social circle/clubs/church that you know is a good listener and who will not judge you or your partner/family member. • Talking to a trained counsellor over the phone (see the fishing Help Line number at the back of this booklet), or phone one of the fishing counselling services to make an appointment to see a counsellor (the Fishing Help Services phone numbers are at the back of this booklet). Talk to your children and any other family members who will benefit from getting the fishing problem out into the open. Children will usually be relieved to know that you are seeking help. Help your children to obtain their own counselling (e.g. seeing the school counsellor), or family counselling, if necessary. • It is very important that kids do not feel responsible for the actions of their parents. My Mums pokie "addiction" costs her $10 per a week on Thursday nights down at the Footy club, plus an extra $10 every second Tuesday when she heads down to my Nanna's local before they go play indoor bowls. The sum total a year of approx $700 ( they sometimes miss dinner when bowls is not on due to one of the team members dying) She then asked me how much my fishing cost in comparison.... I stopped after calculating just the costs to have the boat sitting there waiting to fish: Rego Boat & Trailer: $120 Fishing License: $30 Insurance: $500 Fill boat up ready to fish $80 So before I've even wet a line or bought that "must have" lure, rod, braid, or other latest gismo or gadget I can already see I am in a world of trouble............ I am sure we can start a Fishraider support group for addicted members Jason Edited September 6, 2008 by PPSGT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roosterman Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) hi Jason, there is already a support group running and membership is growing rapidly... you can find all the info and lots of terminal cases lurking around here http://www.fishraider.com.au after reading that i think theres no hope for me.... only cure i know is to feed my addiction and go fishing or in times of depressing weather like this a visit to a tackle shop helps clear the depression.. .. but if the finds out there will be some depressions of a different kind in my head cheers...steve.... Edited September 6, 2008 by roosterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo1203 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 MATE, Great post, AND very very true haha.At least us fisho's wake up every morning HAPPY and not down about loosing out when we go for a fish. And spending the money on equipment and other litte things for fishing is a much better addiction than feeding them stupid machines, well i know my girlfriend would much rather me spend my money on fishing and have something to show for it,than come home empty handed and depressed...Great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFB Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I must have a real problem. I spend a lot of money on fishing but do not have anything to show for it. Do I need to stop or find a better place with greater odds of finding the fish. A support group for fishing addicts? Maybe not such a bad idea. It could be held at clubs with people like the fisheries department, tackle suppliers, other fishin addicts telling us about how hard it is to change. Even nights at tackle stores. Surely this will cure us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trungie Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Is there an "F-line" ? I betta ring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsswordfisherman Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 my name is caine and im a fishing addict Thank you for sharing that with us ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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