Zdenk01 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 (edited) Hi Raider, Went out to the Peak for a jig this morning armed with 20 jigs expecting jackets or bust offs. Jigged for approx 2hrs. Hell this is hard work, sounder was showing fish & heaps of them. My jigs must have been butt ugly, not a single touch anyways this wont be the last, hard work for a big dounut. spoke to the charter guys out there they had same result Edited July 17, 2010 by ALPHABET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongrass18ft Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Hi Raider, Went out to the Peak for a jig this morning armed with 20 jigs expecting jackets or bust offs. Jigged for approx 2hrs. Hell this is hard work, sounder was showing fish & heaps of them. My jigs must have been butt ugly, not a single touch anyways this wont be the last, hard work for a big dounut. spoke to the charter guys out there they had same result Hi Alphabet, I've had days like that. Next time take some livies with you as it can be a total turn around. Good to see the fish are there anyway. Good luck next trip. Pongrass18ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prawn* Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Hi Raider, Went out to the Peak for a jig this morning armed with 20 jigs expecting jackets or bust offs. Jigged for approx 2hrs. Hell this is hard work, sounder was showing fish & heaps of them. My jigs must have been butt ugly, not a single touch anyways this wont be the last, hard work for a big dounut. spoke to the charter guys out there they had same result its always worth taking out a few livies we had same problem other week good shows but werent hitn the jigs, it is hard work if u have a broomstick rod ive since upgraded my jigging combo weighs only 790grams with 42lb braid line on it, makes jigging easy but very costly set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan.widz Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Well good luck next trip mate, I know how fustrating it is to put that much effort in and not be able to put a fish on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbink Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Getting livies in winter is easier said than done, especially if you heading out from Botany Bay. Dead baits on a patternoster rig will also snare kingies if they are not taking jigs or are not schooled up enough to make jigging a proposition. PS: are you sure the sounder shows were kingies? Do you have a colour sounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zdenk01 Posted July 18, 2010 Author Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hi Billfisher The sounder is a colour Furuno, fish were showing on the edge of the pinnical. I can only assume these were kings, (i was hoping). This was our first jigging trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wttmrwolf Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hi billfisher, You said that so casually, "are you sure they were kings". I have a Lowrance colour sounder, all the fish around the peak tend to show as big solid bait balls with the occasional arch. I went out today, second attempt at jigging for kings. First attempt - 7 hours of back breaking work, today 3 hours. Any tips would be fantastic. Even if they are not at the Peak now, hypothetically, how would kings look on a colour sounder? Would like to learn more specifics about the Peak so I don't have to keep explaining to the why I fall asleep exhausted at 8pm and don't have any fish to show for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerardC Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 I have been jigging for some years - my 2 cents worth - was out there on the 10th July, had a good look around and saw lots of fish on pinicles but none of them were kings, all rubbish fish. Caught 1 bonito which was great bottom bait. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbink Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hi billfisher, You said that so casually, "are you sure they were kings". I have a Lowrance colour sounder, all the fish around the peak tend to show as big solid bait balls with the occasional arch. I went out today, second attempt at jigging for kings. First attempt - 7 hours of back breaking work, today 3 hours. Any tips would be fantastic. Even if they are not at the Peak now, hypothetically, how would kings look on a colour sounder? Would like to learn more specifics about the Peak so I don't have to keep explaining to the why I fall asleep exhausted at 8pm and don't have any fish to show for it Kings will give a stronger signal than smaller fish. There are usually strong shows of fish on the sounder at the Peak but these can be small fish like leatherjackets, pinkies etc. Stronger signals from larger fish are assigned a different colur on a colour sounder, eg yellow. Smaller fish will show up blue, black for example. That's why I asked if he had a colour sounder. PS: If your not getting any hits after hours of jigging this is also a hint they aren't kingies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framedtrash Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 what gear were u using and what size jigs and weights if your marking fish and you are pretty sure they are kings but they are not reacting to your jigs try changing jigs to a diffrent colour and size change your jigging action change your jigging speed best way to sound out kings is to first be in a area that kings are likely to be in and then sound out bait if the bait is balled up chances are there are kings in the area feeding on them you really need to learn how to read your sounder so you can tell the difference between schools of bait fish and schools of jackets and schools of kings the only real way to learn how to do that is spend the time on the water or fish with some one with the same sounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wttmrwolf Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 It wasn't a total waste of time out at the peak. Starting creating a map of the area. The bait seemed to be spread over a very large area to the north of the pinnacle that rises up to 58m. There were no "strong" signals on the sounder so must not have been many kings about. Also good point about the bait being balled up if they are about and feeding. Here is a view of the peak looking West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherboy Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 It wasn't a total waste of time out at the peak. Starting creating a map of the area. The bait seemed to be spread over a very large area to the north of the pinnacle that rises up to 58m. There were no "strong" signals on the sounder so must not have been many kings about. Also good point about the bait being balled up if they are about and feeding. Here is a view of the peak looking West. that looks pretty hi-tec and will be very use full when completed do u mind if i ask how u got that image my guess some sorta expensive sounder or a feature on the sounder fisherboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framedtrash Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 looks like Dr Depth software which gets its data from either a nmea connection or from saved recordings from your sounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wttmrwolf Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Yes its Dr Depth. The most expensive part is the laptop. Thinking of creating an iPhone/iPad version. Are there many fishos using iPhones these days that could use such an app (assuming your sounder can output NMEA 0183)? Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framedtrash Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 yeh i would no a few ppl why dont u just use the recordings from your HDS instead or using a laptop how would you connect your iphone to the NMEA network ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleyboy Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 i was at the peak on sat with my mate spongy in his Savage. Only thing we caught on a jig all day was a barracoutta ... which was on the first drop ... and we ended up losing it boatside due to tangles .. lol We did end up with 3 kings from there for the day, but they were all undersize (50, 55 and 63) and caught on live slimey or yakka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wttmrwolf Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 i was at the peak on sat with my mate spongy in his Savage. Only thing we caught on a jig all day was a barracoutta ... which was on the first drop ... and we ended up losing it boatside due to tangles .. lol We did end up with 3 kings from there for the day, but they were all undersize (50, 55 and 63) and caught on live slimey or yakka. We probably drifted past each other. We were in the Haines Hunter 5.2 and left around 9am. There were a few boats turning up and setting up a drift near the big white charter boat. At least you got a few kings. Where did you pickup your livebait if you don't mind saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnds Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 hi guys, was out there as well went passed the peak but decided to troll to the plonk hole...no luck there tried to bottom bash but the swell...which was predicted to be smaller...was annoying and uncomfortable lost some rigs to the leatherjackets ...hate that!! decided to come back towards the light house at kurnell...now that was a better option didnt get the kingies or tuna we were after, but got some nice flatties and whopper of a morwong overall, was not too bad of a day...the swell out wide was annoying, but you expect that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wttmrwolf Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Yes the swell was a mess! It was coming from 3 different directions and building. Looking out to sea in the afternoon and it looked dead calm. No one believed me the Peak was lumpy and windy. Turned into a beautiful afternoon but I was off the water early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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