jay83091 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hi Experts, Hope you are all well I mainly fish from the rocks (land based) for reasonable kings, bonitos, salmons etc. I am using pretty standard, economical gear ($270 all up) for bait fishing (i.e. 20lb + 40lb, using pilchards with gang hooks) Trying to switch to lure fishing and looking to upgrade my gears at the same time (perhaps little heavier gear). I have a budget of $400 to spend this time. Can anyone recommend me a good set up? Any advice would be much appreciated. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack29ham Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hi James Try having a look at the Shimano Stradic 6000 or 8000, great reels ive had mine for over 2 years now and I fish most weekends of the rocks. The have a really good drag system and for the money they are great value for around $180 - $220. For rods I have the daiwa heartland in the 20lb version which I use for salmon and tailor in winter the 30lb version is a beast and is more than capable of wrestling a few kings. They retail for about $160 - $200 You could also try the Daiwa Sensor Surf they are a bit more expensive but also a great rod. There are plenty of rods and reels out there mate, Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennoz Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 dont forget that if your getting a reel in the "6000" range, you'l easily fit 600+ yards of braid, and at up to 30c a meter - thats like 100 bucks most stores have "clearance" specials. not the latest gear but brand new and still good. could be worthwhile just visiting a few shops and see what they have to offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahajo Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I have a Daiwa Saltist 4500 and this is a very rugged reel for the rocks. When looking at rods if your going to be moving alot around the rocks i would suggest going fibreglass for your first rod because it is alot more durable against dropping. Graphite does give more feel but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOE^MOE Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I have a Daiwa Saltist 4500 and this is a very rugged reel for the rocks. When looking at rods if your going to be moving alot around the rocks i would suggest going fibreglass for your first rod because it is alot more durable against dropping. Graphite does give more feel but.. i actually used a 12ft graiphite rod and im in love most of my 12ft rods are the snyder glass rods that are heay buggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay83091 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the advice Stradic 6000 or Saltist 4500 hmmmm difficult choice Will it be cheaper to buy the reels in Japan? (Planning to go there for few days) Cheers James Edited January 17, 2011 by Jamesy83091 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretsch Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Your $400 will only buy 32,000 JPY.. Their Stradic equivalent is called a Biomaster. They are 29,900 JPY so no, not worth it. Stock up on lures and squid jigs. Edited January 18, 2011 by Cephalopod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DECIM8 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Hey mate, I recently went though the same thing. I got a couple of options for you. I went with a 20lb rod (its actually a 17lb but yeah recommend a 20lb) and run either a sol 3000 or it for a Shimano Ci4. This will handle big trevs, rat kings and some bigger ones on the surface. Ive also got a Lox 7kg which I use for lighter lures. Both of these rods will take kings but I recommend the 20lb rod. 7 foot - 8foot is good. Ive also got a Spheros (Shimano) in the 8000 size. 15kg of drag and a very nice mid price reel, $200ish. The rod is a 10-15kg Tcurve Offshore. If you need to throw anything in the 30g-100g area including 9inch sluggos, 19cm lures or big poppers this is worth the money. Retails now at about $170. Its a machine and will take anything. This combo brought up a king - landbased on a pier within 60 seconds. The king was 85ish cm. Id put my money into this. It runs 30lb (more than enough) and will cast over 150-200m. Its the 7,6 model from memory (two peice.) The 20lb rod will be fun, the 15kg gear will stop a freight train as long as you can hold onto it. I would also look at the Triajelo(SP?) if you are landbased mostly. Edited January 19, 2011 by Fezza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer666 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Hey mate, I recently went though the same thing. I got a couple of options for you. I went with a 20lb rod (its actually a 17lb but yeah recommend a 20lb) and run either a sol 3000 or it for a Shimano Ci4. This will handle big trevs, rat kings and some bigger ones on the surface. Ive also got a Lox 7kg which I use for lighter lures. Both of these rods will take kings but I recommend the 20lb rod. 7 foot - 8foot is good. Ive also got a Spheros (Shimano) in the 8000 size. 15kg of drag and a very nice mid price reel, $200ish. The rod is a 10-15kg Tcurve Offshore. If you need to throw anything in the 30g-100g area including 9inch sluggos, 19cm lures or big poppers this is worth the money. Retails now at about $170. Its a machine and will take anything. This combo brought up a king - landbased on a pier within 60 seconds. The king was 85ish cm. Id put my money into this. It runs 30lb (more than enough) and will cast over 150-200m. Its the 7,6 model from memory (two peice.) The 20lb rod will be fun, the 15kg gear will stop a freight train as long as you can hold onto it. I would also look at the Triajelo(SP?) if you are landbased mostly. I also have a Wilson Live fibre 10-15kg 10ft rod and a Spinfisher 950ss for sale for $150 - As a combo. It will stop all kings land based, period! Its a little lower than your budget though and a spheros is a much lighter reel. That's a top buy at that price! Cheers Joe Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abecedarian Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 An 8 ft rod just isn't long enough off the rocks in my opinion. Unless you're fishing a perfect ledge that drops straight into the water then you'll end up always tangling your line on the ledge. A longer rod, about 12 ft, let's you keep the line off the rocks and helps you steer the fish. Only reason you'd ever think of going shorter than 12 ft in a spin outfit is if you weren't strong enough to hold on, but seriously a 10 kg rod in 12 ft is no problem for the average person to hold onto. Go the sensor surf, if you search the net you can find them well under $200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay83091 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Awesome set up you got there Nathan:) Thanks everyone for the input. Love this forum I've decided to go for either Stradic 8000 or Saltist 4500. I just checked the price and they cost $300 each. Could I get some advice on rods? I will be mainly fishing from the rocks targeting kings, travs, salmon, bonito. 12ft? 10ft? 7ft? 8ft? I didn't expect the reel to be $300 so I guess I will have to go little over and budget $200 for the rod. Any advice would be much appreciated Thanks again James Edited January 18, 2011 by Jamesy83091 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abecedarian Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) As I said, the diawa sensor surf is a good rod that will come in under $200 if you do your homework... And go a 12ft rod, you won't regret it. It means you can stay back from the water making it that bit safer, and is easier to steer the fish from structure. Edited January 19, 2011 by abecedarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martymonsta Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 What do people think of a Daiwa Seagate 4500H matched with a Penn Spin Fisher rod (10' or 11')? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay83091 Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 I ended up buying Daiwa Saltist 4500 (50lb braid) with Daiwa Heartland 12ft 30lb rod Time to go hunting! Thanks for all the advice guys You guys are champs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack29ham Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Nice set up buddy, You wont be dissapointed that should last you for years. Good luck happy hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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