moosh7 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Im only a beginner in beach fishing for jewies, but iv'e picked up a lot of info so far... I went down to thirroul (illawarra) the other week trying to chase the elusive jewfish. Me and my dad fished from about 7:30 till about 9 or 10 but no luck, although one guy caught a 75 cm jewfish and released it. i just wanted to know if anyone has any tips i can use such as swell, moon phase, tides. I've got my rigs and gear setup, but i just wanted some tips for the weather conditions. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjc123 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) I've only landed a couple of small jewies but when fishing the beach, pick out a day with the full moon and when high tide is between 8 and 11 at night. Go prior to darkness and pick a good gutter. Maybe even bring another outfit and chase some tailor and salmon for bait and fun. Try fishing Whale Beach near pittwater. It fires all year round nad has some great gutteres for the jewies to lurk around in. It seems that you arent too close to this spot but still give it a go, even in the middle of winter. Edited April 10, 2011 by mack attack 79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewhunter Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Have a look HERE! Cheers, Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosh7 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Cheers, thanks for the advice. is it recommeded that i buy squid or mullet from the seafood shop? Because the last time I went fishing I bought a kilo of squid but didn't look to fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisho Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Mate if you cannot get fresh squid then you can always buy a box of California Squid- available @ most good tackle suppliers- thjey're fresh and easy to get a hold of... and most fish LOVE them Ultimately the BEST bait for Jew is fresh caught Squid but they also like live poddy's and mullet strips- now with the Mullet about to run for spawning you will likely find they are hungry for Mullet I'd personally be taking both to any proospective Jew spot coz you never know what they will take. Learning to catch your own bait like squid, yakkas, mullet is just as rewarding as putting them out for the monsters of the deep- IMHO you should learn to catch your own ultra fresh bait as it will save you a packet on bought bait and you will always have fresh available- nothing beats your own caught bait and nothing will ever come close to it IMHO Tight lines Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosh7 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Mate if you cannot get fresh squid then you can always buy a box of California Squid- available @ most good tackle suppliers- thjey're fresh and easy to get a hold of... and most fish LOVE them Ultimately the BEST bait for Jew is fresh caught Squid but they also like live poddy's and mullet strips- now with the Mullet about to run for spawning you will likely find they are hungry for Mullet I'd personally be taking both to any proospective Jew spot coz you never know what they will take. Learning to catch your own bait like squid, yakkas, mullet is just as rewarding as putting them out for the monsters of the deep- IMHO you should learn to catch your own ultra fresh bait as it will save you a packet on bought bait and you will always have fresh available- nothing beats your own caught bait and nothing will ever come close to it IMHO Tight lines Anthony Thanks mate! I might just get some squid from one of the seafood shops near my area, but i may go to a sydney wharf this week and get some live yakkas, theres heaps of them at this spot and like you said its rewarding. i've got my aerator and massive bucket setup for the yakkas, but the thing thats concerning me is that how long will they survive?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisho Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Ive had yakkas last full 10/12 hour sessions as long as you change the water every few hours they will survive OK, they are very hardy little suckers- wheras taylor and other baitfish will perish in a few hours unless you got constant fresh water going into the bucket- poddy's last a while again same thing- as long as you change the water regularly. Take a small butterfly net and a spare bucket to change the water into thats the best thing you can do- try and avoid man-handling the yakkas they go into stress (you will notice a badly stressed one will have dark stripes going vertically down its back) they wil be the first to die off- if you get any that die remove them from the tank/bucket immediately and slab it up and use as a cut bait to avoind further stress to the rest of the livies as it seems to be contagious- once a fish dies the others will go into stress mode aswell and if you dont remove them they will all die off quickly and suddenly. Good luck mate Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosh7 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Thanks mate. I will take your advice into consideration and hopefully i will soon get that whopper jewie Cheers mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Have a look HERE! Cheers, Grant. ....in theory then this week-end should be good. Full moon. High tide dusk/early evening. High pressure system over us to excite their swimming bladder, and the water temp is still quite warm......did I forget anything?? Good luck all...want to see lots of pics next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosh7 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 ....in theory then this week-end should be good. Full moon. High tide dusk/early evening. High pressure system over us to excite their swimming bladder, and the water temp is still quite warm......did I forget anything?? Good luck all...want to see lots of pics next week Good idea jot, I probably was already going this weekend, I checked out the weather before, and like you said high tide is around 6-7 for saturday and sunday and full moon is just around the corner. im already excited!!! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimyo Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Cheers, thanks for the advice. is it recommeded that i buy squid or mullet from the seafood shop? Because the last time I went fishing I bought a kilo of squid but didn't look to fresh. The best place to buy bait IMO is the fish markets, but you must visit each shop, they all vary greatly, its up to you to check them all out and suss out the fresher stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tide'n'knots Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) Thanks mate! I might just get some squid from one of the seafood shops near my area, but i may go to a sydney wharf this week and get some live yakkas, theres heaps of them at this spot and like you said its rewarding. i've got my aerator and massive bucket setup for the yakkas, but the thing thats concerning me is that how long will they survive?? Be carful buying squid from your local seafood shop as they usually put them on ice and the fresh water from the ice will send the squid a pinkish colour. If you are using squid like this then you may as well stay at home because you wont get a jew on them, they simply wont eat them! frozen squid will work on jew but make sure they have been frozen fresh and protected from fresh water. As said before - californian squid work very well they are usually in prime condition and I personally use them all the time and have caught heaps of jew on them in the harbour and the hawkesbury. Dont worry about them looking black from squid ink thats how you want them looking, The actual squid should be white with a greyish tinge - if they are pink dont waste your money buying them! Oh one more thing! i know there are some who will disagree with me, and I have to admit I dont usually target jew from the beach so it is possible that beach fishing coud be different, however,without trying to sound as though i am bragging i have caught literally hundreds of jew over the years from undersised fish right up over 20lb and I have NEVER yes NEVER caught a fish on the full moon!!!! I beleive it is a waste of time even trying for them at that time, however, as I said before fishing from a beach could be different. Generally speaking I have found that the darker the night the better they bite! and if it is cloudy and overcast or drizzling rain even better, but remember I am talking from the perspective of estuary fishing, there is a theory that the jew use the full moon to hunt so perhaps from a beach - who knows! anyway good luck. pete. Edited April 12, 2011 by tide'n'knots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosh7 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 Be carful buying squid from your local seafood shop as they usually put them on ice and the fresh water from the ice will send the squid a pinkish colour. If you are using squid like this then you may as well stay at home because you wont get a jew on them, they simply wont eat them! frozen squid will work on jew but make sure they have been frozen fresh and protected from fresh water. As said before - californian squid work very well they are usually in prime condition and I personally use them all the time and have caught heaps of jew on them in the harbour and the hawkesbury. Dont worry about them looking black from squid ink thats how you want them looking, The actual squid should be white with a greyish tinge - if they are pink dont waste your money buying them! Oh one more thing! i know there are some who will disagree with me, and I have to admit I dont usually target jew from the beach so it is possible that beach fishing coud be different, however,without trying to sound as though i am bragging i have caught literally hundreds of jew over the years from undersised fish right up over 20lb and I have NEVER yes NEVER caught a fish on the full moon!!!! I beleive it is a waste of time even trying for them at that time, however, as I said before fishing from a beach could be different. Generally speaking I have found that the darker the night the better they bite! and if it is cloudy and overcast or drizzling rain even better, but remember I am talking from the perspective of estuary fishing, there is a theory that the jew use the full moon to hunt so perhaps from a beach - who knows! anyway good luck. pete. Tanks Pete. The last time i went beach fishing i bought some 'southern calamari squid' which the flesh wasn't pink but was white. Im also leaning towards ctaching some live yakkas and using them shortly after for a beach session!! But the MAIN thing concerning me is the moon phase. some say full moon, some say new moon and others have thier own theories. Im just so confused, the only thing that is most reliable is if i put in the time and try different nights and find out what moon phase is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 ....in theory then this week-end should be good. Full moon. High tide dusk/early evening. High pressure system over us to excite their swimming bladder, and the water temp is still quite warm......did I forget anything?? Good luck all...want to see lots of pics next week ....did I forget anything...........change in weather...looks like a low forming off Qld coast so onshore winds and seas this week-end looks the go......nice westerly for the next couple of days....it's flat as a pancake on the beaches/rocks at the moment Jim.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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