dhype Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) Hey Raiders - A few more posts from recent trips in the Bay... still plenty of fish about! One of my best experiences so far was landing this 67cm kingfish on 4lb line use a Stella 1000 reel with 2-4lb Luvis rod. Took a good 15 minutes to land in less than 1m of water. Was so much fun on bream gear... Caught using a pink SLAMBAITS.... nothing catchs fish like a SLAMBAIT! (thats what Mark Bergs says anyway..) We also landed plenty of flatties too that day! This week..took a few friends who have never fished before + the wife out on the weekend for a quick 3 hour trip. Wanted to show them the art of fishing with lures etc.. Started the morning with a troll and land some bonnies..the laser pro taking all the fish. Tried for some squid but no go as we only had 20 minutes... Went to get a feed of flatties on the flats and managed a few nice units in next to no time.. all taken on SLAMBAITS (cheaps a chips work great!). My mate landed his first fish EVER on a plastic and was very happy indeed. Great day out with great company! Some pics.. See ya all in the water. Cheers Trung / DHYPE Edited May 23, 2011 by dhype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kadavu Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Awesome fish in botany bay good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Kings on bream gear ... now THAT'S entertainment! Congrats on yet another successful session Trung. A great feed of fish there. Cheers Hodgey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil D Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 was going to say, wasnt it windy yesterday, it was recent trips. The water looks Great and nothing better tan good company and the missus as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Its good to see the bay has been kind to you Trung, nice fish there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhype Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 (edited) Kings on bream gear ... now THAT'S entertainment! Congrats on yet another successful session Trung. A great feed of fish there. Cheers Hodgey Hey Hodgy - Nothing better than kings on bream gear... i dare say that 67cm on 4lb was more rewarding/fun than the 91cm king I landed in the Bay a few weeks back on 40lb gear! All fish caught found good homes in my belly once again.... Well done Trung, Botany bay is not as easy to get fish...which i hear and see plenty of guys empty handed but you seem to do well out of the bay....well done again and top photos. Cheers cg. Hey CG - you are so true when you say the bay is a hard place to find fish... i do see many people come back to the ramp empty handed. It too took me many hours on the water to finally crack the Botany Bay code. These days I tend to use lures most of the time and do rather well with them in Botany. Is it just me or do others also think that lures outfish bait in Botany Bay? I never seem to get much fish on bait other than with live squid.... LURES ROCK! Cheers Trung Edited May 24, 2011 by dhype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keflapod Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hey Hodgy - Nothing better than kings on bream gear... i dare say that 67cm on 4lb was more rewarding/fun than the 91cm king I landed in the Bay a few weeks back on 40lb gear! All fish caught found good homes in my belly once again.... Hey CG - you are so true when you say the bay is a hard place to find fish... i do see many people come back to the ramp empty handed. It too took me many hours on the water to finally crack the Botany Bay code. These days I tend to use lures most of the time and do rather well with them in Botany. Is it just me or do others also think that lures outfish bait in Botany Bay? I never seem to get much fish on bait other than with live squid.... LURES ROCK! Cheers Trung Hey Trung Those people who master lures I believe do better than those who master bait.....but In my opinion, mastering lure fishing is more involved than mastering bait fishing....Why ? It is harder to fool fish consistently on imitations because you have to work harder at it - especially when the water temps drop and the bottom fish get very sluggish. This is why your constant fruitful efforts are even more meritorious. Because you are using a more difficult technique and still doing very well. I take my hat off to you (or should that be the beanie).... I myself use bait exclusively but my target species are also fairly narrow. You know maybe we should do a trip together and we can exchange some ideas. I can help you out on bait - you can teach me using lures.... Not a bad exchange of info there. PS - I like your final comment "See ya all in the water". I hope I don't end up IN the water - just on it would be fine.... Let me know if you want to do a botany trip - in MY boat of course - you can inspect it before you board but you'll have to come over to my place and see it - just in case it is missing some critical feature you need...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adjustedpete Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Another great day on the water Trung. Dont forget to leave a couple for me mate. I feel a Botany trip coming on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenno64 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Great post, great pics and well done on the superb fish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhype Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) Every one to their own. I think they all do well....it's a matter on how you present bait or lures to the fish and what months of the year plays a big role and a positive mind. I found at the George's the plastics, vibes and poppers are more productive in summer which i do better on baits in winter, interesting subject though, maybe a bunch of us raiders go and have a little comp for fun:thumbup: one weekend....we split half a group on bait and half on splatics, lures etc and all fish count in the weigh in. Cheers cg. Hey George - you bring up a few interesting points about bait vs lures in botany bay. More so than anything - depending on the targeted species one will do better than the other...from my experience in the botany... Predatory fish - flathead, tailor, bonito, salmon + squid ... lures will win no contest in the hands of an experienced fisher person. For scavengers - whiting, bream, travs... baits will pull more fish. (some will say that bream can be caught in bigger numbers with lures but I have struggled in this area.. anyone what to give me a lesson here? ) For Kingfish - Fresh/live squid will win by far! But if you take away squid as bait then I would say lures would be on par with all other bait when it comes to landing keeper kings So - if we were to do a mini competition of bait vs lures in Botany Bay I would put $5 on the lure team coming home with the heavy total catch of KEEPER/LEGAL fish. Who is up for the challenge? Trung Edited May 27, 2011 by dhype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quintrex480 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) Hey George - you bring up a few interesting points about bait vs lures in botany bay. More so than anything - depending on the targeted species one will do better than the other...from my experience in the botany... Predatory fish - flathead, tailor, salmon + squid ... lures will win no contest in the hands of an experienced fisher person. For scavengers - whiting, bream, travs... baits will pull more fish. (some will say that bream can be caught in bigger numbers with lures but I have struggled in this area.. anyone what to give me a lesson here? ) For Kingfish - Fresh/live squid will win by far! But if you take away squid as bait then I would say lures would be on par with all other bait when it comes to landing keeper kings So - if we were to do a mini competition of bait vs lures in Botany Bay I would put $5 on the lure team coming home with the heavy total catch of KEEPER/LEGAL fish. Who is up for the challenge? Trung Hell yeah! bring it! since Trung is going to be on the lure team. I definitely am on the bait side . Let me know when and where. P.S Trung, went and did some land base squidding in the harbour this arvo and got myself a bag of squid, all ready for the weekend. You going to be out this weekend? Edited May 27, 2011 by quintrex480 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhype Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hey Trung Those people who master lures I believe do better than those who master bait.....but In my opinion, mastering lure fishing is more involved than mastering bait fishing....Why ? It is harder to fool fish consistently on imitations because you have to work harder at it - especially when the water temps drop and the bottom fish get very sluggish. This is why your constant fruitful efforts are even more meritorious. Because you are using a more difficult technique and still doing very well. I take my hat off to you (or should that be the beanie).... I myself use bait exclusively but my target species are also fairly narrow. You know maybe we should do a trip together and we can exchange some ideas. I can help you out on bait - you can teach me using lures.... Not a bad exchange of info there. PS - I like your final comment "See ya all in the water". I hope I don't end up IN the water - just on it would be fine.... Let me know if you want to do a botany trip - in MY boat of course - you can inspect it before you board but you'll have to come over to my place and see it - just in case it is missing some critical feature you need...... Hi Keflapod Thanks for the kind words... i am still relatively new to lure fishing but have done ok in Botany for the past 2 years since i tied on my first lure. Still learning all the time.... I would love to get together with you for a fish, skills exchange and good old chat. I only have a small 3.9m tinny so fishing off a larger boat would be a great change! I'm going overseas for a few months for work and will give you a buzz when i get back for a fish... Cheers Trung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idolz Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 gee i only ever seem to get out there and master bait....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keflapod Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 great your on our team. Don't tell me you're title is Seaman Steynes is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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