mrsswordfisherman Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I attended a conference last week (CeBIT) where I heard some interesting information from the Premier and Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy. I am involved in the Healthcare space and working with electronic health recording. I thought I could share with you some points for anyone interested. Check out the video link below - this stuff is not futuristic it is happening now. From July 1st there is a Medicare Rebate Number for Dr's to conduct online consultations. made · Govt will be creating a NSW Govt Web Portal – currently there are over 300 govt websites. · The portal will be focussed on the customer and their needs and be a “one stop shop” · Govt apps for the mobile phones/devices have a real future eg: person on a train station will use their app to find out what time the train will be there in real time (not just when the timetable says) · Consumers will be able to look at the beds available and waiting times for operations/procedures – consumer will choose what hospital they want to go to. Senator Conroy – Unveiling of the National Digital Economy Strategy · Vision of Govt is for Australia to be among the world’s leading digital economies by 2020 based on key indicators such as broadband penetration and usage rankings · Delivering the NBN is crucial to achieving this goal · Increase our broadband penetration – currently sitting at 18th place · Watch this video about the capabilities of high speed broadband http://www.nbn.gov.au/media-centre/videos/at-home-with-the-nbn/ · 3.5 million given for a trial of eHealth telehealth monitoring of Diabetics in Townsville · 2 million to Princess Alexandria hospital to deliver home healthcare to people in the region The Personally Controlled Electronic Health Record will be started July 2012. You can already grab your Unique Identifier Number - register on Medicare Australia website and ask them for your number! It is a large 16 digit number and available now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanemills Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Thank you very interesting. Like something out of the jetsons. I didn't know it would take things that far. We really need this I think. The host looks like paul hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchin Jack Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Thanks for the read Donna, lets hope this gets finished and is used properly. Personally not a fan of the NBN, I would've liked to have seen the money used to fix our hospitals, roads etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsswordfisherman Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share Posted June 4, 2011 Thanks for the read Donna, lets hope this gets finished and is used properly. Personally not a fan of the NBN, I would've liked to have seen the money used to fix our hospitals, roads etc etc. This will help fix some of the hospital issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austral Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Thanks for the read Donna, lets hope this gets finished and is used properly. Personally not a fan of the NBN, I would've liked to have seen the money used to fix our hospitals, roads etc etc. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beupatsunup Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Q: How will it be paid for ? A: A Carbon Dioxide tax !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 In response to the NBN: 50 billion (probably more), so that rural areas can have high speed internet?... ok... 50 billion to have a doctors appointment from home? - how is that even possible... you'd need to setup the software, licensing etc, plus knowing how to operate computer equipment unless they make it so simple for 80 year olds, that you push 1 button to attend the appointment... sure... 50 billion to work from home? - everyone already does that nowadays via vpn. conferencing is done on webex with phone, you don't need video - thats just overkill. The NBN will also no doubt affect the prices of all Australian ISP's, prices will be guaranteed to go up. Complete waste of money for something we don't need. 50 billion could have built more hospitals, fixed our roads, provided better education/facilities for our kids and much more. dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickman Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 i can't wait bring it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemmm Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I have been involved a little with the roll out and have had a couple of briefings from different people. Anyone who writes this off as "just" a faster internet needs to have a serious think about what was possible five years ago and how we are now. The increase in capability the NBN brings will be ten times that once it is up and running. Yes the bulk of the internet is used for "entertainment" but a lot of the uses for the NBN havent even been thought of yet. Education, medicine and business will gain a huge boost from the introduction of the NBN and any cost will be outweighed by the benefits it brings. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsswordfisherman Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 In response to the NBN: 50 billion (probably more), so that rural areas can have high speed internet?... ok... 50 billion to have a doctors appointment from home? - how is that even possible... you'd need to setup the software, licensing etc, plus knowing how to operate computer equipment unless they make it so simple for 80 year olds, that you push 1 button to attend the appointment... sure... dave. Telemedicine has been happening for years. We now have the technology to do amazing things and we need the highways to move quickly. I will post you some more videos of 80 year olds that are being home monitored. In rural areas and remote places in Australia programs have been rolled out already. You have no idea how this will assist hospitals to give you better and safer care than you have ever had. Here is an example A person suffers chest pain..... ambulance called...... heart monitored in the ambulance and the tracing is sent directly to the iphone of the cardiologist on call or to the ED staff........ dr reads it and confirms a heart attack.........automatic sms sent to specialist technicians........... person is taken immediately to the hospital with the cardiac catheter laboratory.............treatment is given quickly At present the person above goes to the closest hospital and sits there until a cardiologist looks at them and decides that treatment is needed at the cardiac cath lab. The person is then transported to the nearest one/hospital. This means treatment is delayed. http://www.ambulance.nsw.gov.au/Media-And-Publications/Latest-News/Heart-of-Gold.html There is a massive need for this in the health space. In case you had not notice the healthcare system is in urgent need of an overhaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 That article was very impressive, sorry about my ignorance =( I guess its a huge advantage medically, but what else? I'm sure there could have been other solutions for the medical sector than a 50 billion dollar NBN. We already have the technology, such as mobile wireless routers (telstra provides them at a monthly cost). I have clients living in rural areas that use them. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsswordfisherman Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 That article was very impressive, sorry about my ignorance =( I guess its a huge advantage medically, but what else? I'm sure there could have been other solutions for the medical sector than a 50 billion dollar NBN. We already have the technology, such as mobile wireless routers (telstra provides them at a monthly cost). I have clients living in rural areas that use them. *shrugs* Yes many, many impressive things are being done in the health space. I guess if we are not kept alive and in good health it doesn't matter how much infrastructure and educational facilities we build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottyscotty Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I for one have no need for it in the immediate future. But i definately want it in place. How many of you said dial-up was enough when DSL was around and charging $100+/mth for giving you only a few GB's about 10 years ago? You think you could browse SMH, Youtube, eday and FB all day on dial-up today? I know you all would say yes but i can bet it wouldn't be enjoyable. So by now, most of the city dwellers have jumped on to the DSL bandwagon paying decent prices and they're all happy again. Now imagine another 10 years ahead when content providers are producing richer higher quality media or applications requiring fast response times. Do you think DSL is going to be enough? And if you thought Telstra was going to come and future proof our broadband needs. Then think again. They were only going to implement Hybrid Fibre Coxial (HFC) cable. The maximum speeds you can achieve on HFC is by far less than optic fibre. Also, NBN has placed a limit on sharing a single fibre. Telstra will place as many customers as possible on HFC. If any of you came by an article a German research managed to send an equivalent of 700 DVD's in one second over 50km. Thats just to give you an idea the possibilities of optic fibre in the future. We still haven't found the speed limits of optic fibre yet. As for prices initially, it maybe expensive. Don't forget the infrastructure is open access which will create new businesses and competition. NBN has no say which company you must join up with, thats your choice. Just like 10-15 years ago, unheard of companies like iiNet, Internode, TPG and the like started making a name for themselves when they had access to Telsra copper phone lines. They competed with Telstra and prices began to fall gradually. I think we will see the same happening again. Like all technologies, prices come down. So to all nay sayers stop thinking what it will do today but think what the possibilites are in the future. You too would be pleased that you had fibre when your mate uploads an uncompressed 1 hour footage fighting a marlin in 1080p at 60 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetpatch Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 As a Tech for the main supplier of 28 years working on new installs and Adsl repairs I work in the New sub Divisions of Kellyville and the Ponds and they are not installing fibre to the node in these areas so if you think they will be installing this in the next year or two in Sydney in established areas GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 (edited) As a Tech for the main supplier of 28 years working on new installs and Adsl repairs I work in the New sub Divisions of Kellyville and the Ponds and they are not installing fibre to the node in these areas so if you think they will be installing this in the next year or two in Sydney in established areas GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS Is there a reason why they're not? Cause I read it is supposed to be in the plan? But anyways +1 for specific details As for the medical sector, as mentioned previously there is already technology out there... Transferring data from a Van(ambulance) to another point can be done in a "dedicated" wireless network, this is ALREADY here(a while ago)! All it will take is software to be written and the major telco to provide a dedicated network, which is exactly what they've done now and classing it under the "NBN" project.... So many people are unaware of the technology we have right now, cause they simply don't work in the sector and don't know, then the labour government takes advantage of that. Here's an example of technology that exists today which people probably don't know about... gas/electric/water meters can all be read wirelessly within seconds from a single hand held that is kilometers away or via IP on a fixed network. I bet 80% of people who read this didn't know that, simply cause you don't work in the technology/IT industry. NBN is coming for the wrong reasons, we don't need it. Edited June 8, 2011 by dpham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beupatsunup Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 " Now I'm no Bill Gates, and I am definetly 'No Tech-head' ", but how is it going to be paid for ????? Maybe a N.B.N. levy ????? Maybe a Carbon Dioxide Tax ??? Could someone please explain ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 The exact same way politicians are funded even after retirement http://www.news.com.au/ex-pm-john-howard-costs-taxpayers-more-in-retirement/story-0-1225757105993 Fact: Politicians are paid for life after retiring.... pretty sweet deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffy Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 People , believe what you will but the reality is that NOBODY has yet seen a business plan or any modelling whatsoever for this NBN. We can all be sold on the "good things" by the sales experts but until the Govt comes out with REAL costings etc I am still to be convinced of the need of this vs wireless technology, and $42bn is a shit load of money to spend in an industry in which rapid obsolence is traditional. Always remember the age old rule of business - "Failing to plan is planning to fail". And don't get me started on the other wasteful spending this so called "Govt" has made on our behalf! Tuffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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