rjc123 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Hi Raiders, Looking at getting into the kings in the next week or so. Might hit up pittwater for a look. Haven't been up there a while and the kings should hopefully be inside by now. I don't have a downrigger on the yak so keen to give slow trolling a go with live yakkas and squid. Just looking for some info on rigs to do this. Do i need weight? I assume its very similar to downrigging only without the bomb... Any help would be great. Also, any reports of kings in pittwater yet? Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.e.p.d Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Hey Tom I'm far from a expert but we used a sinker to keep our livies down and were slow trolling down south for big kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolongeramember Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yeah it works good like that. Run a fairly big sinker down to a swivel, then your trace. It you want your bait deeper you troll slower or stop. If the ground comes up and you risk hitting the bottom got a bit faster and it will ride higher. Vary the speed to suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostproperty Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 As above said Tom and pin it through the top of the nose would be the best place or you can bridle rig it with a rubber band or something through the eye socket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjc123 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Thanks guys, Is there any point in having them unweighted a fair way behind the yak and basically drifting or pedalling really slowly? Other wise i'll use the above rigs.. How long should my trace be from the swivel to the hook? 1.5m? Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostproperty Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 About 1m should be enough, no harm in going a bit longer tho, kings will tend to be a bit deeper down so might not be as productive on the surface compared being trolled in a bit of depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.e.p.d Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Thanks guys, Is there any point in having them unweighted a fair way behind the yak and basically drifting or pedalling really slowly? Other wise i'll use the above rigs.. How long should my trace be from the swivel to the hook? 1.5m? Cheers, Tom Hey Tom u have a sounder in the yak right? Just keep them a few mtrs off the bottom and slowly work a desired area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostproperty Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Hey Tom u have a sounder in the yak right? Just keep them a few mtrs off the bottom and slowly work a desired area Also if its on the surface its more likely to get chomped up by a Tailor. Tailor will usually sit up on the surface and kings and trevs sitting below those schools generally. no no no wrote an article about it somewhere but Im not sure where it is and whether or not it was online but I think I saw it in a magazine. Have a dig see if you can find it, but yeah a few meters off the bottom is ideal, just not too close or the squid will kill your yakka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjc123 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Hey Tom u have a sounder in the yak right? Just keep them a few mtrs off the bottom and slowly work a desired area Yeah, got a lowrance elite 4-dsi. I'll be sure to keep it a few meters off the bottom. Also if its on the surface its more likely to get chomped up by a Tailor. Tailor will usually sit up on the surface and kings and trevs sitting below those schools generally. no no no wrote an article about it somewhere but Im not sure where it is and whether or not it was online but I think I saw it in a magazine. Have a dig see if you can find it, but yeah a few meters off the bottom is ideal, just not too close or the squid will kill your yakka Thanks mate, I'm planning to run one rod with squid (live if i can catch a few otherwise i have a few fresh dead in the freezer) and one with a live yakka. Do you reckon it would be worth dojng the yakka with the slow troll rig, and making a "make shift" downrigger for the squid? I have a few big, big weights lying around. I might let these weights down below the yak (a couple of meters off the bottom) and attach the fishing line via a small elastic band. Do you reckon this will work? Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicksticker Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 For sure the makeshift downrigger idea will work, but if your on your own and all hell breaks loose with a decent fish getting it out of the water can be a problem sometimes, especially in the yak. Just a though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostproperty Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 For sure the makeshift downrigger idea will work, but if your on your own and all hell breaks loose with a decent fish getting it out of the water can be a problem sometimes, especially in the yak. Just a though It will definitely work the problem is bringing the "bomb" back up so your fish doesnt get tangled and then bust you off, just make sure you mount a GoPro & upload the footage for us all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.e.p.d Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 As for landing the fish I'd make a flying gaff and tie of off ready to go. You don't want to bring the added weight a rubber band will work perfect. And go pros are awsome have you seen them in sunglasses form? The guy I go game fishing with has go pros but the battery's don't last long. I'm sure if the fish are in the area you will get a hook up for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjc123 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah might have to mount a go pro on! I'll give the make shift downrigger a go. Hopefully all goes well Will post a report.. Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjc123 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Another thought would be to run a balloon with a decent sinker behind the yak you can set the depth and it's keeps everything away from u... Just a thought... Yeah that would probably make things easier. Either way, i just made the downrigger. A handline with 40lb mono (30m) with a splitshot every meter so i know how deep im running it... Attached two really big snapper leads to the end. Should be all good to go. Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombora Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 G'day MM, we just use a decent bean sinker. More simple than downriggers. Rig is short double, connecting knot of your choice to trace of about a metre and a bit, thread on sinker, then BB swivel, then another metre and a bit of trace to circle hook. Gives you a longer trace without the sinker being way up the line. Bridle the livie and it'll last forever, give better hook sets and little chance of the hook burying in the livie. Also, at least outside and trolling from a boat, we always have a livie unweighted and trolled a fair way back. So you are covering a fair bit of the water column with one deep and one surface bait. The surface livie often scores the biggest king (think how effective big surface stickbaits are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjc123 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 G'day MM, we just use a decent bean sinker. More simple than downriggers. Rig is short double, connecting knot of your choice to trace of about a metre and a bit, thread on sinker, then BB swivel, then another metre and a bit of trace to circle hook. Gives you a longer trace without the sinker being way up the line. Bridle the livie and it'll last forever, give better hook sets and little chance of the hook burying in the livie. Also, at least outside and trolling from a boat, we always have a livie unweighted and trolled a fair way back. So you are covering a fair bit of the water column with one deep and one surface bait. The surface livie often scores the biggest king (think how effective big surface stickbaits are! Thanks for that mate Sounds like a great rig. I'll have to just use trial and error for the moment. See what works best for me. Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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