Basil D Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdASjntfkCM Makes you sick paying all this cash and this Happens.I have contacted Yamaha again and they have asked me to take it back to the fitter, dont know what will happen yet, this is the second time Im taking it back and the smoke is getting worse.It makes me sick the smell and the fumes, I have asma and that smoke effects me, my wife wont go on the boat anymore, fun times ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidboy Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Just a thought but at what level and what oil has been out in this engine? Too much oil could be doing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWV Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Groper, I feel for you mate, just a few things, are your exhaust ports clear of the water level when starting it? they look like they aren't. That could be your problem. It they are in the water it prevents the exhaust gases form escaping that's why your getting a bit of extra smoke and crap on start up. Also you run the risk of forcing water back up though your exhaust and though the exhaust valves and into your engine although the risk is quite low. How much oil are you loosing? The smoke seems to clear after is has run for about 10 seconds in the video or does it hang around? Ben Edited October 16, 2013 by Whaler 255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil D Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Yamaha know of this problem and on service use half a litre less oil, they have made a new mark on the dip stick and have a bulletin on this problem, not all the engine do this . I might get a new engine who knows. here is the bulletin sheet. Edited October 16, 2013 by Groper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frantic Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 seems a pity having problems with a new engine makes you go GRRR i bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongrass18ft Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Basil I still find it hard to believe they say it is ok to blow BLUE smoke on start up when moving from spot to spot??? Hopefully is gets sorted soon with no headaches,will be my boat for next few outings Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWV Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Trim your engine up higher mate and see how you go, it looks like its angle down in the video. How long does it take to use 1/2 L? I can't see Yamaha replacing the engine at this stage as its not a "recall bulletin" so to speak, more of an advisory one. A few must do it they have put the bulletin out and probably the other owners are aware as you are. Hope it all get sorted soon. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWV Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 On another note, my 275 Vrod use to make oil so to speak and occasionally blow smoke on start up , after it was trimmed up. Mercury said it must be trimmed down for 5 minutes before starting after bring trimmed up. Opposite to what you have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexaway1234 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I replied to you on the other forum ...same as grouper says My dealer told me this when just got my twin 150s done so I didn't go home check my oil and then call him and complain my sump wasn't filled properly. Seems as if maybe too many issues flowing back into cylinders and burning off if too full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil D Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Not too concerned with it but thought Ide share, They should let the public know what they are buying before they buy it. but if it does get worse, I have kept all records etc, they have to do something about it. Anyway its back to Yamaha On Saturday they want another look at it. Edited October 16, 2013 by Groper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formosan Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Not good mate..Did it only just started or have always been doing this since you got it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil D Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 Not good mate..Did it only just started or have always been doing this since you got it? Its always been a slight puff on start up, but left few outings Ive noticed it getting worse. Its of to yamaha Tomorrow so Dont know how long I will be without a boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formosan Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Garden must be in schmick condition then. . I remember you are saying you are a Yamaha man for life, Like all the other Yamaha fanboys. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil D Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Garden must be in schmick condition then. . I remember you are saying you are a Yamaha man for life, Like all the other Yamaha fanboys. . I still am but the problem is I got the bad egg in batch of a thousand so to peek. Even the outboard fitter said its the first he has seen like this. Dam rotten luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hi, not the first one I have seen by a long shot and we had to give a guy back his money on an engine that exhibited the exact same problem you have and trust me if it was one in a thousand there would not be a bulletin on it. I am sure they will get you sorted. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil D Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hi, not the first one I have seen by a long shot and we had to give a guy back his money on an engine that exhibited the exact same problem you have and trust me if it was one in a thousand there would not be a bulletin on it. I am sure they will get you sorted. Cheers, Huey. Cheers for that Info Huey, Most appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quintrex480 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Hopefully they get it sorted Bas, as you say, just unfortunate to get a bad egg in a thousand. My Yammie 4 stroke is a 2007 and never had any problems with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratchie Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Gees, a bit of bad luck there Mr Groper. I was wondering why I haven't seen many of your awesome reports lately. Hope you get it sorted soon! Cheers scratchie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil D Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 well Yamaha are sorting it out, so its all looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidboy Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 How are they sorting it out? Is it a replacement or a repair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil D Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 Im sorry I cant discuss it as each case is different I have given them my word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratchie Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Im sorry I cant discuss it as each case is different I have given them my word. I know you can't discuss it but I would charge them for loss of income! You catch that many fish to eat and been without a boat for so long! Grrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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