Guest hawkesbass Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I got some new tyres fitted to my patrol two weeks ago. This morning on the way to work at 5 45 am the left rear wheel decided to part company with my car. Causing some signifigant damage to the wheel and bodywork. Just a word of advice anytime you have new tyres fitted to your car or trailer double check for yourself they are fitted correctly back on the vehicle. I failed to do this and it has cost me alot of money and a day off work. Cheers trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) I got some new tyres fitted to my patrol two weeks ago. This morning on the way to work at 5 45 am the left rear wheel decided to part company with my car. Causing some signifigant damage to the wheel and bodywork. Just a word of advice anytime you have new tyres fitted to your car or trailer double check for yourself they are fitted correctly back on the vehicle. I failed to do this and it has cost me alot of money and a day off work. 20150513_060404.jpg 20150513_060409.jpg Cheers trevor Lucky you or others weren't killed.I've been telling people to check over people's work for years including mine.I've seen people's cars sent out from dealerships,workshops,tyre fitters with things like-Missing wheelnuts,broken wheelnuts,broken plastic hubcaps,disconnected brake lines,brake lines with a visegrip pinching the line,missing brake calliper bolts,no oil in engines,transmissions,diffs after services etc,etc,etc.I don't care if its the best mechanic in the world and that mechanic is me,double and triple check someone's work as best as you possibly can. When I get tyre work done I R&R my own hubcaps and torque my own wheels to spec with my own torque wrench and won't let the tyre shop use a impact gun on my wheels. If it was up to me I'd ban all rattle guns when fitting wheels or at least use the lowest torque to seat the wheel nuts and finish torquing them down with a torque wrench. Those broken studs are a classic example of over torqued wheel which stretches the studs causing fatigue and eventual failure.(over torqued studs can cause rotor warpage also). I have a saying that I swear by. DTA-don't trust anybody. Hopefully this will be the last time you lose a wheel. Edited May 13, 2015 by Fab1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest no one Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Moved this topic to The Bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 So lucky nobody was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongrass18ft Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 No one was hurt that's the main thing. Did you have them fitted where I told you not to go??? I repaired a car that went through there with same issue to front nuts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrownNprawns Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'd be sending them a very informative letter with the repair bill them share the places name with everyone you see and talk to. One peeved customer will tell more ppl the a happy customer. Most places that have a listing on godel maps lets you have a rant........... Good to here on one got hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawkesbass Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Cost $600 so far just to get mobile. Now need five new rims and a left rear bumper bar section. Have a meeting with the tyre shop manager tomorrow will be seeking considerable compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 He should have insurance to cover this so don't let him cry poor....but at the same time be tuff but fair with your requests Jim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2153 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 As a mechanic I can tell you this is the difference between a tyre fitter and a GOOD mechanic. Classic example on why you shouldn't do up wheel nuts or any nuts really with a rattle gun. Rattle guns are designed for undoing things and to nip the nut or bolt up, not to tighten. Every wheel I have done up is run in with a rattle gun on the lowest setting then torqued up with a torque wrench once in the ground. Every wheel stud should be greased as well. I feel for you mate could have easily killed someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 As a mechanic I can tell you this is the difference between a tyre fitter and a GOOD mechanic. Classic example on why you shouldn't do up wheel nuts or any nuts really with a rattle gun. Rattle guns are designed for undoing things and to nip the nut or bolt up, not to tighten. Every wheel I have done up is run in with a rattle gun on the lowest setting then torqued up with a torque wrench once in the ground. Every wheel stud should be greased as well. Be carefull greasing wheel studs as it can change there torque values resulting in over torqued studs..It is recommended they are torqued to specs perfectly clean/dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2153 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Greasing a wheel stud will not affect the torque enough to damage a wheel stud if have any effect, the grease is more to fight off corrosion rather than lubricate the threads. Average torque spec is about 110nm give or take 10-15nm to break a stud would take well over 200nm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 As others have said, glad that neither you nor anyone else was hurt! How did you go with the mgr today? stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawkesbass Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Spoke to the manager today. Opened a complaint file. he took copies of receipts on money spent so far. I need qoutes for four new rims as three of the four rims have similiar damage on them and need qoutes for the panel damage to be repaired. Once i have these the manager will send them off to the insurance company then it will be upto the insurance company to let me know what they are willing to give me and if i accept there offer. If im not happy with their offer i will be engaging a compensation specialist lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2153 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 So he took responsibility at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutha Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Hey Hawkes Had an issue will a faulty snorkel fitted to my old troopy, had a gap and pulled water in it and wreaked the motor. Went to dept of fair trading arbitration, cost very little and got a rec motor at their cost. Might be an option, was 15 years ago though. Lutha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bessell1955 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Was the wheel the left hand rear and was it a steel rim or a Mag ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawkesbass Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Yes left rear and a alloy rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bessell1955 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 In another forum (4WD related) I have noticed that these vehicles have a propensity to shed an alloy left hand rear wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawkesbass Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The wheel was not fitted correctly. On the nissans alloy wheels the tolerance between the rim and axle are very tight giving the impression it is seated correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bessell1955 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I have noticed that 3 of the wheel studs have sheered off. Did the other 3 retain the wheel nuts " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawkesbass Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 No the nuts went with the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawkesbass Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Got a few qoutes back today. One all inclusive of needed repairs was $8996. Another was for $8150. Will submit the qoutes at the tyre shop and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2153 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Wow! That's a lot of money! Good luck with it mate keep us informed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locodave Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Wow, $8k!! Good luck and hope you get it sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amkr Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 wonder how they justify that pricing. Thats insane, it should be a bit of bodywork and some new studs really! Oh well, you're not paying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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