Aero Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Okay, Got a question in regarding how guides should be positioned on a baitcasting rod. Should at any stage the when a baitcaster is loaded up, the line run on, or below the actual blank? If it does, is this normal ? are certain rods designed like this? (not talking about spiral wraps) OR is it a case of incorrectly spaced guides? or not enough guides to cater for the action of the rod? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_lure Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Okay, Got a question in regarding how guides should be positioned on a baitcasting rod. Should at any stage the when a baitcaster is loaded up, the line run on, or below the actual blank? If it does, is this normal ? are certain rods designed like this? (not talking about spiral wraps) OR is it a case of incorrectly spaced guides? or not enough guides to cater for the action of the rod? Chris 71504[/snapback] Gday Chris I am no expert by any means, but I would say definatly not! sounds like the guides are indeed incorrectly placed cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Have to agree. Sounds like the placment of the guides is wrong or there is not enough of them. Is the problem on a new rod?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 It is on a new rod, But luckily only one i've had a play with in a store. Mr Golver? where art thou ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bashir Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Normally its simply a bad choice of blank by the rod manufacturer, it is pretty simple stuff to get the guides right on a blank . Some of the newer slow tapered, yet fast loading graphite rods on the market are more suited to being used as spin rods, but are being built up as baitcasters. Not sure if this is the case with the rod you looked at chris, but its another way to look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Bash, If this is one of the newer slow tapered fast loading blanks, that dont really suit their stated baitcasting applications, why are they being built in that configuration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jocool Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I think Andrew once made mention of a relatively expensive of the shelf rod that did that. Apparently it was normal for that particular rod. Can't recall what it was though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bashir Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Bash, If this is one of the newer slow tapered fast loading blanks, that dont really suit their stated baitcasting applications, why are they being built in that configuration? 71559[/snapback] Because the manufacturers are a bunch of stooges probably. Like I said, I don't know if its the case with the rod you're talking about, but there are plenty that are being made - I have noticed this with a couple of daiwa baitcaster rods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Andrew, Its a Custom jobby, Thats Supposedly "meant" to load up that way. Apart from a spiral wrap, I cant for the life of me work out why its been built this way. I was hoping there was a legitimate reason apart from the rod builder being skimpy and using less guides or a rod blank thats just not designed for baitcasting duties. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen glover Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Andrew, Its a Custom jobby, Thats Supposedly "meant" to load up that way. Apart from a spiral wrap, I cant for the life of me work out why its been built this way. I was hoping there was a legitimate reason apart from the rod builder being skimpy and using less guides or a rod blank thats just not designed for baitcasting duties. Chris Bash is on the money anyone who builds a rod this way is stooging you. The arguement for it supposedly goes that the reduced guide count is less of an impediment to the action of the blank but the basic fact of the bigger the line angle over guides on an Ohead rod the more torque the thing suffers from thus the more impeded the action actually is, and the more the rod is at risk of snapping let alone simply worse to use as it wants to twist out of your grip more under load. Funny how age old tried and tested fundementals fly out the window when a sale is at stake dont touch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bashir Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Bash is on the money anyone who builds a rod this way is stooging you. The arguement for it supposedly goes that the reduced guide count is less of an impediment to the action of the blank but the basic fact of the bigger the line angle over guides on an Ohead rod the more torque the thing suffers from thus the more impeded the action actually is, and the more the rod is at risk of snapping let alone simply worse to use as it wants to twist out of your grip more under load. Funny how age old tried and tested fundementals fly out the window when a sale is at stake dont touch it Allen are you referring to the new guide concept thing??? Haven't looked at it much, but I don't think the concept is all its cracked up to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen glover Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Allen are you referring to the new guide concept thing??? Haven't looked at it much, but I don't think the concept is all its cracked up to be. no Im not refering to the NGC Im refering to an occasional issue( short guided oheads) that crops up and is primarily due to dodgy sales pitches trying to shift poorly designed product . but funny you should mention the NGC as it also seems to contradict the problem at hand A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 So we are in agreement that this rod didnt have enough guides on it? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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