Mike89 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) There's a couple of boxing day sales on until midnight this evening and I was hoping to pick up a Daiwa BG to match with a Crucis 10' 6-8kg beach rod for spinning for salmon, tailor and bonnies off the beach and rocks. I'm curious as to what raiders would recommend as far as reel and line sizing goes. My thinking was to get the BG in the 4000 size and spool it with 20lb braid. There is also the 4500 with an extra 4kg of drag and the added line capacity at the cost of about 100 grams in extra weight (the 4000 comes in at just over 100g, very light). Is it worth going for the 4500 or will the 4000 do the job? Any suggestions on what line to use for this setup would also help. I haven't done a lot of this kind of fishing so I'd love to get a few inputs from the experts here before pulling the trigger on this one! Cheers Edited December 26, 2016 by Mike89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassRoots Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 What's the cast weight of the rod? A good rule of thumb I picked up is use 10lb line strength for every ounce you want to cast. So basically 10lb for every 28gr. Try to balance a good size around that and the rod balance weight. I'm getting into a pickle with my 4000 where I want to be able to put 25lb braid on to launch 65gr slugs confidently but it's probably not worth it because it'll lose too much line length. At the moment I have about 120m of 15lb braid backed by probably 50m of 20lb mono. If I'm casting 40 - 50m of line out and I hook a fish it doesn't leave me much to fight with, especially if you accidentally hook a king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerotao Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 looking at the specs, i would personally go with the 4000, would even consider the 3000 imho the reviews on them are good, but when i had a play with them, i found them quite heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike89 Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Really? I found them to be very light. I played with the 4000 only. I've also never had a Daiwa reel. Maybe I need to have a look again at the two in-store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossfire63 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Hi Mike For the money you'd be hard pressed to find a better reel. Yes they are heavy but built to last like the original Black Golds and GS-9's. I would think that a 4000 loaded with 20lb braid would be more than adequate for what your targetting. You'll probably need to add all 3 shims under the spool to get the line to lay properly on the spool. I had to on my two 6500's Edited December 29, 2016 by Crossfire63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tackleberry Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I know I'm too late to the party but I would recommend the 4500 as a min as it has a mechanical back up anti revers the same as the saltiga , I have 2 8000 and for the money they are a lot of reel and bullet proof . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undy Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Hi Mike, Just wondering what model BG you ended up getting and how the setup has been performing. I am interested in a similar setup and I've heard some good things about the Crucis 10' 6-8kg. Is it ok for flicking plastics, hardbodies and bait rigs to 3 or maybe 4oz? Not too much about this rod on the net. Cheers, Undy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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