Wellzy94 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Had an overnight trip planned Saturday on the Hawkesbury, target species Jewfish. After a bit of an unexpected sleepin, we ended up getting the boat in at Parsley Bay about 1pm Saturday afternoon. Hid around behind Dangar Island to escape the wind for a while, anchored up and fishing for Bream. After about 20 minutes, noticed our anchor wasn't holding the bottom, so we moved to about midway along the stretch of houses at Little Wobby, Landed one bream here that went just shy of 30cm. Started to pull up anchor to move to Juno Point to set up for the night and get the Jewfish baits out, but the anchor was stuck! Took about 10 minutes (and a lot of rope burn) to get the bugger up and get moving. Got to Juno Point, and after a bunch of failed attempts, our anchor wouldn't hold bottom. Filled with disappointment, packed it in early. Still got Jewfish on my checklist, unmarked. Fingers crossed for next time! Might try off the beach in the near future, don't have to anchor there. Cheers, Wellzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked-Up Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Bugger, what sort of anchor? how much chain is attached? how much rope you let out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellzy94 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 It was a sand anchor, with 2-3m of chain. I was letting out enough rope to match the depth plus another couple metres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyT Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Good rule of thumb is as much chain as your boat is long- with the current around juno you would probably need to let out depth of water plus 20-30 meters of rope to hold bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) You should have at least the length of chain as the length of boat ie 5m for a 5 m boat. For anchoring somewhere like Juno in that strong current you should be looking at putting around 3x the depth in rope as a minimum ie 10 m depth 30m of rope. This can often need to go to 5x in choppy conditions. I use a float system to retrieve my anchor, as pulling it up from 80 m is tough with just the kids onboard. Jon sorry for the repeat!!!...PaddyT got in there as I was tipping!! Edited January 23, 2017 by JonD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellzy94 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 The chain may actually be that length. It's not my boat (I'm a member of a fishing club, it's available for hire to members) so I imagine the guys who look after it know what they're doing. The amount of rope needed to anchor is definitely good to know for next time! Much more to boating than I thought Cheers, Wellzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wellzy94 said: The chain may actually be that length. It's not my boat (I'm a member of a fishing club, it's available for hire to members) so I imagine the guys who look after it know what they're doing. The amount of rope needed to anchor is definitely good to know for next time! Much more to boating than I thought Cheers, Wellzy This may help. http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/JonDP/media/boats/anchor_scope_zps8814a6e0.png.html][/URL] Edited January 23, 2017 by JonD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellzy94 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 That helps! Thanks mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasponge Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, JonD said: I use a float system to retrieve my anchor, as pulling it up from 80 m is tough with just the kids Can you explain the float method to retrieve anchor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 48 minutes ago, seasponge said: Can you explain the float method to retrieve anchor? Most boating stores sell the ring and either the inflatable float as in this video or the white hard poly type ( which I use ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 There is a clip that can be used where the rope runs in one direction jamming if the anchor slides try's to slide back down, stay away from this version. These can be hard to clip onto the anchor when hanging over the front of the boat, you can also easely clip it on the wrong way. Also if you use the jamming clip and the rope breaks above the float the force of the current can pull the float under ending in loosing the anchor and float. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked-Up Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Haha theres ya problem, plenty of rope mate, good average is triple the depth of water as pointed out! re the sand anchor, sounds like you found some reef, reef anchor wouldve suited you better there. does the boat have a decent sounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 By the way I've been using sarca anchors for a few years as this holds in reef, sand or mud, not lost one yet touch wood!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellzy94 Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Hooked-Up said: Haha theres ya problem, plenty of rope mate, good average is triple the depth of water as pointed out! re the sand anchor, sounds like you found some reef, reef anchor wouldve suited you better there. does the boat have a decent sounder? It's got a Lowrance on it, not sure what model. The bottom looked nice and flat, didn't see any reef, or anything sticking off the bottom at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Wellzy94 said: It's got a Lowrance on it, not sure what model. The bottom looked nice and flat, didn't see any reef, or anything sticking off the bottom at all. The few times I've fishe Juno I've only found sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordoRetired Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 8 hours ago, seasponge said: Can you explain the float method to retrieve anchor? I have a float that locks on to the anchor rope with a clip that will only slide one way. Got mine in Whitworths years ago and reckon that it was the best investment that I ever made. For a start since buying it I have never lost a reef pick, hope that does not jinx me..... And pulling in the anchor is just so easy as all you are doing is pulling in slack rope. Saves the back and your hands. Also suggest that you invest in a reef pick, makes it a lot easier when anchoring over a rocky bottom. You can get them in Whitworths pretty cheaply. Then had a D shackle on the end pf the chain and swap as necessary. Good luck. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickmarlin62 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 ive used the float and clip system for years and wouldn't be without it..we fish 90 mtrs sometimes and use a fairly substansial length of chain with short solid anchors similar to a moloolaba pick..i would hate to pull it up by hand..as for jon s comment about hard to use on the bow that's why we do it from inside the boat..i have not lost an anchor in 15 yrs using our style of anchor with cable tie breakaways.the only time we pull the anchor by hand is in shallow water with short lengths..float system is just unbeatable..rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bessell1955 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 The Hawkesbury is a big system and the tides roar out in and out. It does make it hard to hold bottom with an anchor. As usual the members have offered great advice, which I will using in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatsworking Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 ^ and Juno Point is probably one of the strongest currents in the system. Getting a bait below the surface on a run-out tide - you'll generally need a second anchor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiry Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Length of chain may be the length of the boat but given the varying weights and sizes of chains it may still not be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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