well done dave top effort,Also i havent time to get a decent fish in either but my mate goes everyday infact geting up early and going before work with him tomorrow,Working at warragamba gotta take the rod,anywho he said same thing he was getting them surface lures last week but this week there hitting fatdogs,the wounders of bass he also said there coming on about dark but shutting down shortly after.Hopefully ill have post tomz