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Hey Jim,
Jeez that's a nice clear colourful photo. Fish straight out of the water in full colour, nice blue ocean background and all I can think of is that fish grilled in lemon herb butter.... If only the kingies tasted as good as the JD's.....
Tony
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Hey Dhype,
If it wasn't for your crab reports, I would still be thinking that I have to wait until the summer!
You are certainly a very accomplished fisherman.
I take my hat off to you.
My wife and I love crab but I can never seem to get the basics right.
No-one I know has any idea so I find myself experimenting.
So far the experiments have had poor results.
I watch deadliest catch on the TV and I salivate as the pots come up with king crabs....
Then again, I have to take seasick tablets just to watch the guys working the Bering Sea.
Those guys are nuts.
Well done on the crabs and flatties - a feast fit for a king....and his family....
Tony
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G'day Erroll,
Can I ask about the lights - are they the aqualuma style lights that sit below the waterline and are fixed ?
How much did they cost ?
I've been looking at submersible lights for a while and gave up as they are too expensive to justify....
if the lights don't get the quid excited, the baitfish milling around the lights certainly will.
Just throw a jig further back where the light penetration starts to fade out and the bigger models will hit it.....
Tony
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Hey guys, about the toxin in the heads - I have not heard of this before.
I used to catch a lot of the chinaman jackets on the peak and 12 mile.
I have made leatherjacket head soup many times and do not remember experiencing these symptoms.
Perhaps it's a tropical species of jacket that contains these toxins, like ciguaters does ?
Ciguatera definately does have these symptoms and more.....
By the way, nice catch of trevs.
I bet next time when cleaning them, you'll give them the grip of death in case they slip overboard again...
..or perhaps you will have a mask and set of fins close to hand !
Tony
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Hey dawg,
Which waterway were you fishing?
Lovely catch of squiddies - makes my mouth water AND my jewie rod twitch....
By the way, any luck on the bream ?
Tony
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Hi Guys. First timmer at this so here goes.
Took my father down the bay on sunday morning. We know its not really the right time for crabs but the pots were in the boat so we put them out anyway. I think we were the only ones that did. The water was a chilly 12c. We drifted around the middle of the bay for two nice flathead. with the wind from the west and the tied running in we didnt move much. Water around the sticks was 16c. After checking pots three time we ended up with 17 male bluies and must have thrown back 25 - 30 females. The fishing was quite but it was good to take a feed of crabs home. Cheers. Darryl.
Hey Darryl,
Nice feed of crabs. I haven't had a taste in many months.
Do you move the pots after each time you check them?
Do you rebait them each time you check them ?
Were they in the river or in the bay ?
I was convinced there were no crabs around in the winter but once again I have been taught something new...
Tony
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Hey Refused,
You know, one important lesson I've learned in all my years of fishing.
Have an open mind about fish, fishing and eating fish.
Salmon, I fillet, skin, debone and remove the dark flesh.
Cut it up into bite-sized pieces and add any flavour you like.
Herbs, spices, sauces, whatever you like.
Cook it however you like but not for too long.
It will taste great....
I also went against the advice of all my old rock fishing buddies and kept a few cockies for experimentation.
They laughed at me and maybe their estimation of me fell a few points.
It couldn't have fallen too far as I usually outfished all but one guy (the master of them all - he who taught me to fish - He was master, I was the grasshopper).
Well I treated the cockies the same was as the blackfish and they tasted VERY similar. So similar that I kept them as well.
make up your own mind about fish....
Now all I need to work out is how to make morwong taste good.....
Tony
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Hey Fezza,
It looks like your son is giving that rod a head-lock ! No way he's gonna let that go.
Shame you couldn't have put him onto a sambo - he would then be hassling you for fishing trips 24 X 7 !
Also, good to see him wearing the lifejacket, even in calm seas - well done....
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G'day PT and PT JNR,
It's great to see the youngsters still keen to wet a line during the colder months.
Then to pinch dad's rod to fight a nice fish...
I've said this before and I'll say it again - it won't be long when dad is trying to pinch Jnr's rod so that dad can have a bit of a go !
It really is a ray of hope for our fishing future when the kids drop the WII controller and pick up a t-curve instead.
Then when it's time for them to pick up the pen and vote, they choose the man who is also holding a fishing rod, even if it is a game stick in the estuary !
Tony
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Jim and Tony , get a room you pair ,lol
Only you are funnierthanu.
Does that mean that you are funnier than yourself ?
...oh hang on, do you mean funny as in haha or funny as in you're thinking about me and Jimmy in a room ?
...I'd like to think it's the former...
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TRY THE SOUTHERN CARDINAL MARKER JUST WEST OF THE KURNELL FISH ABOUT 300M FROM THE MARKER AND LINE UP
THE CITY ONLY ABOUT 3M DEEP BUT GOOD BREAM USE PILCHARD TAILS OR FILLETS HAVE CAUGHT BREAM UP TO 45CM
ONLY ON RUN IN TIDE
ENJOY
ALEX
G'day Esky,
Do you find fish here in the winter as well ?
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Hi Tony in regards to water temperature you said in one of you posts last year if you remember which one i do were you posted the bream a back baby you needed to read it because its conflicting with what you are now saying or have you change your views on it if the bream are not seasonal like you say then i should at some point get 30 bream is that a fair number or maybe 20 a fair average for me at summer you would needed a drag net in these months to get 20 or 30 bream because they are not there in those sort of numbers . Are you working for some tackle shop trying to promote winter fishing because their stores are quiet at this time year lol .cheers Jim bream
Yiasoo Jimmy me old mate me old pal,
I had a big laugh when you mentioned I may work for a tackle shop.
No way Jose. Like you, I'm learning about fishing all the time.
This winter we are in is only the second one where I have caught fish over the winter.
My initial posts indicated metabolism would be down and the fish won't feed. Now I'm thinking that this may be true but there may be overriding factors. Perhaps burley in the water changes that, perhaps it's the water quality on the rising tide in the morning that overrides that. There's some information I'm holding back that is key in this scenario which will clear this up a bit but I can't say it in a public post. If everyone gets in on it, then my spot and it's secret will be known by all and I won't be able to wet a line in peace. The fish are definately not there in the same big consistent numbers but if you get a day in winter (during the week) that's quiet of noise, a rising tide that's got nice warm clean water, you burley the spot and fish light with an assortment of baits, the result will be worthwhile...I have done it and I have seen two people pull fish after fish along with me on more than one occasion...no need to drag nets around.....
I asked one of these guys what he was catching - he lied to me when I could see what he was doing...it doesn't matter - we both got a fair few fish that day before the 20knot Westerly blew us both off the water.....
Tony
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G'day Alex,
That's a nice bag of fish you got. Shame about the jewie though.
You did very well and no doubt you were burleying up structure to get those fish....
Was it a night sesh?
What bait did the damage ?
Would have loved to see some piccies....
Tony
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i suppose you are right, fishing structure and using burley just seems to be common knowledge, or so I thought.
kept 6 bream to 42cm, released heaps because I dont ususally keep them, and a dozen trevally between the two of us, most around 35cm but a few good ones in it. no pictures, cameras are bad voodoo - i am taking the kayak out this weekend for a lure sesh, i will take the camera and see what happens.
i was there purely targetting the trevs as I had heard that the big +50cm fish were at the oil wharf the weekend before, the barometer did let us down, and mostly smaller fish were about.
i rarely target bream, but they were suprisingly hard to get past on the weekend, heaps of small reddies too.
James
Hi James,
I should have said "It seems you know a thing or two about winter trevallying". I like your style when you say you couldn't get past the bream to get to the trevally. I'm the opposite...
It's definately not common knowledge that winter means fish structure with light gear and burley....
I also didn't realise you have 1900 posts to your credit - you have obviously been a raider a lot longer than I have.....
Did you mess with any sambos or kingies last weekend?
Tony
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there are no tricks, hidden tips or spots... fish structure with burley and you will get fish.
i fished on saturday around the oil wharf and got a good bag of bream and trevs before the wind kicked up without really trying.
James
Hey James,
Seems you know a thing or two about winter breaming.
It's funny you said there are no tricks or spots, yet you mentioned the trick, the tip and the spot.... The oil wharf is a big structure and let me tell you, not all of it has fish. There are some areas that hold fish and some that are barren. You found fish because you tried to find them - you fished the structure, you burlied and you got the fish around. Only problem is you can't get within 100m else ports authority will move you on...
How many fish did you get? Any photos?
I can't wait until I finish my renovations - I'm nearly out of fish and I haven't bought any in years....
nice bream Tony they good in size but you said 14 bream is that's correct and at 13 degrees. now what i no is at 13 degrees the fish metabolism would of dropped considerably and that feeding would be the last thing on the fish mind it would be looking for warmer water which would the shallows were the sun would warm the water up or the hot water outlet were most winter fisherman would go correct me if im wrong im trying to learn a bit more about winter fishing im told and understand that bream are seasonal fish.
Yiasoo Jimmy,
I agree with you regarding metabolism of fish, yet there are sometimes examples where the fish break the rules. Perhaps the burley in the water overrides the shutdown metabolism while it's in the water. Prawns are a high calorie food for fish as well so perhaps they will always respond to larger peeled prawns...
In the river where the water reaches 10.5 degrees, I have caught some fish on the top of the tide. They shouldn't have been feeding but there you go - prawns again.
The hot water outlet is a good spot, but if you get more than two boats there, may as well go home as the fish will spook easily in the clear shallow water. You can't mix it with trollers, lure tossers and anchored bait fishos...
Bream are not seasonal, but they certainly vacate all the summer spots and seem to either be around the headlands and a little inside thereof, or they are up the river. It all gets very interesting when we get heavy rains in the winter and whatever fish are up the river get flushed into the bay, then congregate around the deeper cleaner water. Give them a nice morning rising tide with clean warmer ocean water and watch the rods bend.
I have been catching bream ALL winter - never come home with less than 12 - best catch is a bag limit with several legal throwbacks - mind you, that day was during the week about a month ago....
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Hey guys,
Here is the photo he sent me of the bream.
I also know of another guy who burleys with pillies and fishes them in his trail.
I have seen him catch umpteen trevally, quite a few bream, tailor and salmon.
I have seen him get dusted several times over the winter, but he fishes 6lb mono all the way.
I have fished side by side with him (two separate boats) and we often co-ordinate trips.
No lies guys, but there is only so much info I can give before I begin betraying friendships.
All I can do is inform you that there are fish there, but like I have done, we must all experiment a bit, before we begin to learn winter secrets.....
Tony
Sambos, Trevs, Kings and tailors all seem surface fish to me. Must be the way you have your rig.
Hey Fishing fanatic,
Here's a tip when burleying.
if you're cubing your burley, it will sink faster so try to guesstimate where on the seabed it will hit given the depth.
Throw some baits at that part of the seabed with a sinker big enough to keep it there. this is your bream rig.
The rest of the burley may be mashed and it will hit the seabed a lot further out the back so throw a sinkerless rig out the back (say 15m away) and let it waft around. This will get the pelagics and the odd bream.
If the trevors are around in big numbers, they will eat all burley and every line will get them. But if they are scarce, other fish will have a chance to have a go....
Winter is a MUST for burley because even if the fish are in the vicinity, they need a much bigger incentive to move to find food. Hit that dinner gong and they'll come running if they are within earshot...
Fish light - real light as the water is so much cleaner in winter...
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fished the bay on sunday morning got 10 keeper bream 29-38 cm 1st of rup tide
Good on you Oarderve,
Tell 'em there are fish in the bay ALL year.
I fish the bay all year and although the spots, baits and techniques are different, I always find a feed.
My buddy fished the bay on Saturday from 6:00am to 10:00am or so before the wind sent him home.
He got 14 bream and a couple of decent whiting.
I can't say spots but he was fishing in 1.5m of water at 13 degrees.
Large peeled prawns did the damage and his best 4 fish went 39cm, 41cm, 43cm and 46cm.
These fish are too big for my pallet but it shows they are there...
He sent me a photo as well - on my phone - will try to post, but they seem like black bream to me......
Tony
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Hey Slam,
Sure is a rarity.
For around 12 years I would fish the ocean rocks at La Perouse.
The boys accounted for thousands of fish during that time.
Never seen one like that but I HAVE seen them very light coloured when caught over the sand at little Marley beach in the National park.
My fish did, however, possess the vertical stripes whereas this one doesn't.
The fact that the fish is now registered means that even the scientists are baffled.
It would almost certainly be caused by some sort of genetic mutation, but it would not be clear if the mutation was caused by pollution or just plain natural selection. The fish may indeed have some advantage over the others, and when it reproduces, you will get a percentage of mutants. Then again, it may fail to attract a mate and remain desperate and dateless.
Tony
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Hey Georgieboy,
I usually catch several of those big brown ugly catties each year.
They like the weed / sand type bottom and usually bite before dawn.
There's more than 1 spike on those things so be careful.
You did the right thing to cut the hook off and let it go.
Just wait until you get a dirty great pike-eel while fishing for jewies...
I think they eat the catfish !
Tony
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Hi Tony -
I generally find water between 2 - 5m when looking for crabs.
Brighton Beach as been fishing well in the past few weeks, nice bream, travs, whiting and flathead - here is a nice whiting caught from that area, its not hard to identify where i am!
Hope this helps
Cheers
DHYPE
Hi Dhype,
Jeez you fish at night in winter?
That's one thing I would definately not do.
Not unless I found a way to drink a litre of antifreeze fluid !
That spot is a beauty in the summer but I thought it was dead in winter.
Have you tried there in the winter mornings? If so, how does it fish then?
As for the crabs, the spot I was thinking of is in 1m or less so I guess I don't know your crab spot.
Also, how do you get the cat food to stay in the trap ?
By the way, nice whiting that one.
Tony
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Hi Roberta,
What an amazing capture.
I was half expecting Dr julian Pepperill to submit a post !
It's scales look oversize for the size of fish and they also don't look elliptical either.
It reminds me of a Ceolocanth !
It's teeth are also crusher type pads - line a big ocean toadfish.
With a solid head like that, it looks like it must have headbutted the wharf a few times to try to knock you off it so it can escape !
Were you afraid to touch it in case it had some nuclear neurotoxin in it's dorsal spines ?
Tony
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Hi Tony -
Love your comment about the
... so true about telling them its hard work getting fish for the family i sometimes even manage to get a massage as fishing/crabbing is suck back breaking work! As for the crabs.. I have done really well on them this year and found the moon phase does not really make a difference when it comes to catching them. I think if you have a trap in the right locations good old Mr Crab is not going to say no to it! Of all the crab baits, i think fresh whiting and flathead frames work the best.
>>> " By the way, you used whiting frames for bait. Did you catch them ? If so, on lures or bait ? When ? How ? Why ?"
I got whitings on live yabbies pumped locally. I have landed plenty of whiting to 44cm from the Brighton and Como area.
Cheers
DHYPE
Hi Dhype,
You manage to get your missus to give you a massage ?
You must be a smoother talker than me !
I can believe you can get big whiting in winter from the como area (I haven't been there in the winter but a veteran mate of mine does and he gets a few). As for Brighton, I didn't think you could get them there in the winter but hey - I'm always willing to learn.
So the crabs - how deep is the water ?
Tony
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Hey Dhype,
you have answered a question I have had in my mind for the last several years.
I think I know which flats you are talking about but I won't say anything.
I'm surprised there was anything anyway bcos it was a full moon only a couple of days earlier.
My understanding is that the full moon puts them off feeding - but hey - never too old to learn something.
By the way, you used whiting frames for bait. Did you catch them ? If so, on lures or bait ? When ? How ? Why ?
Just kidding of course.I like your style - we both get 'told' to go fishing and catch some fish for a feed.
We both begrudgingly drag our feet to the boat, moan as we get the boat ready and drive off.
But as soon as we clear the driveway, we give a big WOOHOO !
We don't want to let on to the missus that we actually LIKE fishing now do we ?
Bcos if we let on that we had fun while she had a rotten morning with the kids....well, I'm sure she will somehow not be happy about the fact we had fun.
So that's when I whip out the blue swimmer crab and make IT talk to her, waving it's claws around and using the voice of Mr Crabs from Spongebob...
It's amazing how quickly they stop hassling you when you're animating a dead blue swimmer crab to do the talking for you....
Tony
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Hi Tony you say resident fish personally i have to disagree think the only resident bream would be the black bream unless the bream in the picture are black bream hard to tell. The bream come in from the sea and go back out. when the season starts they return just a normal cycle the bream change their pattern just before winter and are found around the mouth of the rivers the lower reaches of Botany bay and again about mid winter changes again you will find them higher up the bay or out side the bay you have to pay attention to these thing to understand the fish are there but just need to be found i don't fish winter but i like to read as much to understand the way they move around during different months of the year the problem with some fishos they stick to one spot and dot move any way there my thoughts cheers Jim bream
Hi Jimmy,
These debates are great, aren't they? It allows us to exchange information based on years of experience. I know one guy who catches a fair few bream in the winter further upstream than Como bridge (he won't say how far up). He fished last week and in 2.5 hours got 7 bream and two elbow slappers, then had to get home because a southerly blew his boat off the water. His experience over 30+ years is when the water temp falls below 18 degrees in the bay, the fish go upriver as the bay dies off. He got these fish at the same time I got mine...what does this tell us? Perhaps some bream go upstream while others go to sea as you suggested. Can we draw any conclusion? Yes. They must be separate bream populations or perhaps no hard rule applies. The fish obviously look for something over the cooler months. I reckon it's structure where there's barnacles, weed, oysters, growth, etc so there would be worms, crabs, etc for them to eat, in a water temp that won't freeze them...
If only we could do what Dr Dolittle can do - talk to them......
... so true about telling them its hard work getting fish for the family 
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