Thanks for the replies, just got back from a hunting trip.
Nectic
Ive found where in the bay the reds hang out but can't manage any over 30cm, mabbey i need to buy a fishfinder. The flatthead on the other hand I might need some pointers from robeebee he seems to have nutted them out.
Mondo
I think your right I got to get a bigger boat and chase some fin, however I have fluked a few 10kg+ gummy's in the bay.
jewgaffer
I hear what youre saying, but the only interest i have is not the challenge of the fight, but the challenge of the size of the fish. I have caught kingys on my bream rod and yes harder to catch but at the end of the day still a kingy.
Huntman
Kingys would have to be the most prolific feeder in and around the bay I have caught them using plastic, any fish that would try to eat plastic would eat anything I rekon. Ask jewgaffer how easy they are to target.
robeebee
I usually rig up my baitrunner 6500B with 25pound line, also my flickstick with 2500 stradic 30p braid. also with my pen overhead running 50pound line which I only rig up with big baits and tackle