slothparade
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Just now, slothparade said:
Already done. I've pulled 100% of the reel apart and ever little peice has been degreased, regressed, inspected and then replaced according to the manual. I tried to get a vid of the shaft turning even with the bait runner on but to big to upload. Downside of such a good camera I guess lol.
I've been putting it back together as can be seen but I've pulled it apart again to re inspect the baitrunner system. In taking it down to a professional sometime to have a peak because I'm stumped
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4 hours ago, XD351 said:
You wil have to remove the side cover and see if anything is broken ,missing or installed incorrectly
Already done. I've pulled 100% of the reel apart and ever little peice has been degreased, regressed, inspected and then replaced according to the manual. I tried to get a vid of the shaft turning even with the bait runner on but to big to upload. Downside of such a good camera I guess lol.
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But still the secondary drag isn't adjustable
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3 hours ago, XD351 said:
If you look at the exploded view below parts 83 thu 88 are the drag components for the liveliner drag. Part 72 is the lock pawl which when engaged a peg on the bottom of part 72 locks into a slot on part83 to lock it so it can’t rotate , when you activate the liveliner function the peg is moved so it can’t lock into the slots on 83 and the entire centre shaft can rotate .If you can confirm that the centre shaft is definitely locking when the liveliner function has tripped out into normal operation then the issue could be a stripped thread in the rear drag or maybe the reel has been apart before and something is missing . If the shaft is still turning maybe the pawl is damaged ?
The drag washers on either side of the spool are your main drag and have nothing to do with the liveliner drag on the rear .
Thanks for the help. I turned on the liveliner and turned the shaft and yes it turns
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9 hours ago, Berleyguts said:
I assume by “secondary drag”, you mean you have the Liveliner version, which works like a Baitrunner (Shimano). If so, it’s not really a drag as such but a spool tension control for when you have it in Liveliner mode… effectively like free spool. Basically you set it with enough tension to hold your bait where you want it but so a fish can swim off with the bait and not feel undue pressure. To strike you’d flick it out of Liveliner mode by flicking the lever or winding the handle… then the regular “main drag” would kick in. If you’re trying it this way and it’s not applying enough tension to, say, hold your bait in the current, return it to your tackle store and get them to look at it. They’re a sealed system, so I wouldn’t be pulling it apart… you could void warranty as CampR indicated.
Yeah, the secondary drag isn't able to be adjusted. I can turn the knob and nothing happens. Its so loose its not funny, may as well be free spool, basically defeated the purpose. Its already in peices, Ive completely stripped it apart. Its second hand, with 5 day warrenty. I found a brake in the plastic but ive fixed that and it wasn't that important. Im thinking something isn't engaging properly.
I noticed there are 2 sets of drag washers, one on the top of the spool and one on the bottom, which one controls the baitrunner? Im guessing its the bottom? Or is it like the slammer, I think it has 2 drags as wel, but I cant rember and don't want to pop it open again.
I have completely stripped the reel down to bare bits and am in the middle of regreasing and putting it back together, so im stumped wht the problem could be.
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14 hours ago, campr said:
If you just bought it and it doesn't work, it's a no brainer to take it back and they should replace it. Don't play with it in case you void any warranty. Ron
bought second hand for pretty cheap. Do have 5 day warrenty though.
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I just got my spinfisher v but the secondary drag isn't working properly. For some reason no matter how far left of right you turn it, it makes no difference to the secondary drag. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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Zodias is good, I really like my TD hyper to, have it pared with a nasci, I also have the older style taipan, easily one of my favorite rods, it's light, casts well and has a lot of power for the weight.
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2 hours ago, noelm said:
No need for fancy snelled rigs or flashers, Bonito will take just about anything, other Tuna tend to go for live bait, but can be taken on Pilchards.
Thanks for the tip. Just a sigle hook through the nose? They tend to inhale their food, its a trait of all tuna isnt it?
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16 hours ago, Larkin said:
I use sharkskins to keep warm. Wetsuits are tight and restrict movement - the sharkskins are more flexible - divers also use them under their wetsuits to keep warm.
yeah, thoes are mesnt to be good. I have 2, one for free diving shallow warmer water/ surfing and then another for freediving deeper water
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14 hours ago, Restyle said:
I've never caught a decent tuna besides the Bonnies etc, they are fairly common during the warmer months and usually appear around headlands or in the outer areas of systems towards the ocean.
My dad use to catch longtail regularly off Coffs and yamba. balloons with livebait were the go, but they do take pilchards, salted strips and other dead baits when they are hungry, as with most tuna, once landed they go spastic so that will be a big challenge in the yak, controlling the fish.
Keep the rigs simple, you dont want to over complicate everything with fancy this and fancy that, just whip on a hook, a balloon/float/unweighted and just drift around looking for bait/ surface actions. try for slimies or yakkas, if you're going in the winter, garfish are a great option too.
Safety, well you can only do so much before it starts compromising yourself. outriggers are pretty silly as if the fish circles your boat your line will get pinched on them. flipping the kayak shouldn't happen until you ether lift the fish in or you flip it while trying to control the fish when its landed.
if its a keeper and you want to keep it just whack it on the head with the backbone of a machete or a large bowie knife. works a charm with kings, Bonnies and macs and puts them to sleep without splattering about in the kayak. Along with that keep your deck clear of stuff like line, hooks, knives and other crap on the deck as it will just get thrown everywhere or create tangles
Thanks.
ill try and grab some live baits, thanks for the tip.
do you recomend drifting around with the bait or slow trolling? the reason for the flashers i through was just to give the dead bait a bit more appeal. Im guessing a snell rig?
thanks for the tip abolut outriggers, thats handy to know, didn't think of that before.
Yeah I always keep the deck clean.
thanks again for the advice
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17 hours ago, dirvin21 said:
I've caught mack tuna and bonito out of my kayak in the river
Caught on metal slugs
Can't give you specifics around Sydney but our tuna run on the mid north coast is usually April-May they come into the larger estuarys on the run in tide
I know plenty get caught in Sydney harbour
The only issue I've had with tuna in the yak is they go crazy when landed
like at the mouth of the rivers?
Ahh, any specific weight?
Yeah I know theyre in nelson bay at the moment, theres still supposed to be some hanging around around sydney at the moment.
Yep, a couple of months ago they were an absolute plauge in the harbour lol
how do you handle them in the yak? I plan to have a bag in/on the front hatch, so i guess that makes it easier to deal with them? they dont have teeth right? excluding dogtooth. I guess bonito can go in the centre hatch lol. I seem to be an expert in stuffing things in there and never been able to get them back out.
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The reel sounds about right, your going to want a 30w, personally id be going a Tyrnos. As for the rod, id go a bit longer, like a penn prevail 10ft 15-24kg rod. as for the baloons, your going to need favorable conditions, if you can id be going a drone as they open the window for fishing less favorable conditions.
Another option would be to get a overhead reel that is cabable of casting - though personally id still be going the drone.
50 lbs should be fine, id be putting some backing on so you dont have such a large investment in line. If you do want a large amount of braid, look at ashconfish, I use it on my shark reels, they come in bulk for a reasoable price.
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Now those are some decent snapper. Congrats.
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Sorry to ask this, I'm not asking for anyone's spots, though some recommendations would be awesome. Since I've upgraded the kayak, I'm starting to venture further out.
And now I'm looking to catch my first tuna. Not to fussed on species, and obviously not chasing any monsters. Targets are long tail, bonito, Mac, skip jack, yellow fin, ect. I understand the risks of tangling with these species but I'm prepared for worst case capsizing and I have been coordinating with multiple people who are interested as well.
My questions are, what kind of areas can I chase tuna, what seasons. Obviously they can be in deep water or shallow water but curious what's like the sweet spot.
Then how do you rig for them, I was thinking flasher rigs with Pilli or yellow tail, live bait, and trolling lures, just like a mixture of these. But how do you rig up for these, keeping in mind im not targeting monsters so would rather be broken off than deal with something big.
Finally any safety tips and advice.was thinking put riggers, keeping the kayak as light as possible. Staying within reasonable distance of the group, life jacket. As it's cold and maybe risk of hypothermia if things go really south, wet suit?
Thanks for the info
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I quite like the penn allegiance and also very happy with the shimano aerowave and taipan.
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I've been looking at getting more into live baiting and the ins and outs of the gear around that. Not looking at getting any my self, but interested in what type of gear people have. There's obviously different target species, so it would be helpful if you could please mention the target species on that setup. And wether people use overhead or spinning. And also curious about baitrunners/ liveliners and how they live bait. I've never personally used one so interested as to what people use them for and how they find them.
For me personally I prefer a lever drag for live baiting as It's easy to adjust the drag. For sheltered waters I use a squall 50 vsw on a roller tip rod, dripping yakkas for king's. I know it's big and bulky but for what I want I quite enjoy it.
Offshore on the kayak is where the battle 2 or slammer or spinfisher come out on a 15kg Penn rod. All of them work well, but prefer the spinfisher the most.
Thanks for your opinions and different options I'm curious about what other use as I'm just new to this live baiting thing. Also any info about live baiting with bait runners would be great
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Congrats, thats a great fish. lot better than what I magaed to get yesterday, went up past crosslands in search of new crabbing spots. ended up with some mullet jumping in the kayak. What time time you go back? I saw a long white kayak coming up the river to the boat ramp at around 5/5:30
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Have you tried dry lube on your seized zipper? I use a quick bit of wd40 or silicon spray to get it to budge, then rub the stick of dry lube on it, works great for me. Ive covered all the rippers on my tackle bag with it and they havent seized since 2018, ill admit it never comes on the kayaks, clostest to the water it ever comes is the warf or the beach.
Hope it helps. I think it forms a sort of protective layer. I keep topping it up like every year.
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I just got a $20 voucher, I get something like every 2 months. I'm pretty happy about it. I don't really shop with them all that much only for convenience.
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20 hours ago, Green Hornet said:
I can’t say I ever needed to lubricate my hatch latches. Just a good hose down at the end of the day was all they needed. I’d say with yours, the silicone spray is a good idea though you may find Inox penetrates better to initially loosen things up.
Most guys run their fish finder battery in the rear hatch and if you want to keep it up off the bottom of the yak in case you get any water inside, you can get a purpose made hatch insert or modify the one that came with the Revo.
Ahh, sweet I'll get some inox. The hatches are weird, it's an absolute pain to close and open them until they are sprayed. Might think about replacing them though the back one which is the harder one to open and close is definitely pretty new.
I'm getting ready to print one that will fit into the hatch and is suspended. Do you think a net on the inside of the hatch like stuck right on the bottom is a good idea like the PA has to put pliers and stuff in.
Also do you recommend a create or the ticket launcher rod holders? Create means I cant really trawl with 2 rods but it does mean more storage for other things, or the rod rack means I can trawl, live bait, put the net and gaff in there.
Considering I already do have a crate for the other kayak but I've only use it 2 times and I never actually stored anything in it. So I'm considering it it's even useful. What do people store in their crate?
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21 hours ago, frankS said:
A flat blade is best and most irons have one you can change to. The 3d print material should be OK but just test it on a non vital area to be sure.
Let us know how you get on.
Frank
Ahh alright. So the flat blade is just an attachment right? Will do, abs is the same stuff Lego is made of.
Will do.
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21 hours ago, frankS said:
If you drill any holes in the Yak try and keep the shavings to act as filler for when you are welding the plastic.
Just need a decent soldering iron to plastic weld, and cable ties make excellent material for filler as does the dividers in the tackle plastic boxes.
Frank
Yeah it came with a box of them lol. But thanks. Also do you recon I could just melt 3d printed scraps of abs plastic?
Wouldn't you need a like flat head for the soldering iron? Would've thought the nose is a bit pointy to do a nice even job?
Ahh thanks for the tip with the cable ties, that's helpful to know.
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On 6/10/2022 at 7:22 AM, Green Hornet said:
Congratulations on the Revo, I'm sure you'll learn to love it quickly and enjoy pedalling rather than paddling.
The rocket launcher behind the seat is a good start. They're cheap to make and keep your reels up away from splashes.
The general rule when applying mods to your kayak is not to rush into it. Take it out on a few trips to get a feel for where you'd want to place rod holders and any other equipment before you start drilling holes.
I'm not too sure if you can do it to a Revo, but one mod I did to my Outback that I really liked was replacing the circular, centre hatch with one of the larger, rectangular ones, as you find on the PA. With that extra bit of room and the larger storage bucket, I could keep 3 lure boxes plus other gear in there and I would never have to go opening the front hatch while on the water.
Although they're expensive, I think a fish bag is the best way of keeping your catch in good condition. Look after it and it will last you many years.
Its also pretty easy to make your own coiled, rod leashes out of whipper snipper line. There's plenty of "how to's" on Youtube showing you how to do this. This is one of many. For offshore work, particularly if you plan on beach launching, everything should be leashed, including rods in the rocket launcher.
Thanks 🎉 so excited to take it out.
Done the calculations at about $25 for the rod holders and a couple of hours of work.yeah but with only 2 flush mount and no where to put a net it's a little hard. But I'm looking at moving the rails over form the old kayak.
Probably my favourite part of the kayak is the weight, I can pick it up and move it around with ease. The worst part is definitely the hatches, I busy open my knuckles trying to open them everytime and put blood all through the kayak, just ruins the day. The seats comfortable, it's a little squeezy but I'm pretty tall. I find I like the seak more for other things like rivers and estuaries as it's got more primary stability and U can move around and stand in it and over pack the crap out of it with food, as those who've paddled with me know, in always snacking on something lol. It's hard when you have to pack a simple meal but you love cooking so you bring a stove to cook a steak on the kayak 🤣. Any tips to lube these hatches, I've tried lithium spray, now silicon spray, going to try dry lube if that doesn't work.
Unfortunately the revo can't fit the rectangular hatch. Worst comes to worst. If it's rough coming back in, I can get my rods in the front hatch. Im coming up with a blocker to stop stuff from rolling around to much when inside the kayak.
Yeah I guess so, you'd think maybe like $60 to $100 max, but no $300 to $500 🤬 im going to see if I can grab one from a kayak place on special for $150 or trade my commercial grade tuna bag for something smaller.
I bought some leashes for like $1 each and they're really good. I'll make some diy ones for cheaper stuff like the net and stuff if I need. Thanks though.
On a side note I 3d printed some railblaza stuff and it's better than expected. For the star port I did 30% infill for the body and 100% for the sliding thing locking mechanism.
I need to get around to making a love bait tube and a flag and then printing a live bait tub or just a storage tub for the hatch. Where would you put your fish finder battery? I plan to put it in the back hatch so its out of the way.
Thanks again
spinfisher v liveliner drag not adjustable
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I'm really confused how this even works as a drag. Like I can seem to find anything that cause friction on the shaft or anything so yeah I'm really struggling to work it out