squidgie

You could pick up a penn 850 and spinfisher rod to match for your budget. The reel can handle 15 kg line easy, and if you get a 950 rod which is rated up to 20kg it makes an affordable boat combo with some grunt. Mine has done the job well off the boat when I get out. And if landbased, you can still use it for flicking out dead or live baits etc off the jetty.

I use a stradic 8000 (with 20lb braid or so), but you can also get a 4000 or 6000 to fish lighter. Never had any problems and it gets used off the rocks all the time.

Kings are still here in winter....just less of them and bigger. Commercial fishing for where ?

like bertrand said and ditto from me.. cheers

Big guys cruise right along ledges looking for an easy meal. No boat is going to get that close and try and sit there with a big livey waiting for a hood.

Kings - yes..have seen plenty of them. Cobia - sometimes, yellowfin tuna...not for many many many years and that was boat based in SW arm. And I mean a long long time ago. As for landing a 10kg of the baths, well that first run must have been a dud . Go left, reefed on the oysters...go right, reefed on moored boats and the baths. Straight out - well, stuck on the float off the sand point or cut off by a boat. Dont like sounding cycnical and would love see a YFT taken from there, but hard to believe. I have landed some large frigates out of there, and I mean a few kilos each. And rumours of Mac tuan in there, so maybe it was a Mac tuna...love to see a pic though .

10kg yft (yellow fin tuna) ? WOuld like to see a pic of that .

I use fins for some 10lb or less line and it has changed colour after a few sessions where the drag has worked hard with frigates and some small GTs....But it doesnt really matter if it changes colour anyway as long as the knot strength stays the same, and you generally have some sort of leader whether its mono or flurocarbon. With 2m of fluro, doesnt matter what colour the braid. I think its just the way the material is coloured and yes, after some scorching runs it will lose some colour.

I do it all the time. Im careful with them, but they have still fallen or been dragged along the rocks, and so far so good. But yes, I do try to make sure that they do not hit on the rock edges as much as possible.

Yep, they are nice blanks and have a great reputation. Hard to get here in Sydney if you are based here, but can be ordered via WA.

I modify my lures.....singles on metals mostly, and also add fly material on the hooks as well of the metals and diving lures I have. For sluggos, I have jigheads that I either paint with glo powder or just red, plus add eyes. This allows me to cast the sluggos further off the rocks and still keeps a great action. Also, some bodgy home made fly lures to flick at frigates. Plus white barrels coasted with heat shrink or several coats of gloss white and clear in various sizes.

Rose Bay probably..then you just shoot across the harbour

count me in for as I should be able to drop on in...crimping and pulling apart eggbeaters is where i need some help

For some reason I thought the workshops where out west somewhere....... Kingsgrove is easy for me so should be able to rock up if cityrail doesnt screw my train trip home from work.

Thanks guys....Im not sure if these pliers are the go as they dont seem to crimp down that good on the larger crimps . And just realised the armour springs I have are too small as well. Im not too confident in the test one I made up so might drop into one of the tackle stores so they can have a look . I would be spewing if it let go on a run, so will drop down to small leader for now that I can knot.

Hi all, Im making up some traces with 300lb mono and have the correct size crimps. But Im using a shimano crimping plier and am not sure if Im doing it right or the pliers just dont fit these size crimps. Should the crimp be put in horizontally so you squeeze down and in between the mono, or vertically so that you squeeze the mono together ? cheers

Uni knot is all I use to connect line to any terminal tackle (hooks,swivels). And thats for light lines up to 100lb lines. With the heavy lines I have only 4 turns or so . If you are looking at leaders and doubles you will need to learn some other knots.

Mine is definetly the PE5-6 one (8ft, 2piece offset handle). Also keen on the GT86 as the next step up.

If you get a torium etc, get carbontex drag washers, and then you can get also beefed up top plates etc from Jack erskine....worth the extra little bit, helps keep the stack nice, and get smoother and higher drag consistency

Saltiga Dorado 80TN - rated to PE5 or so..6-8 kg max drag, best at a bit lower than that ~4-5kg

Spanyid snipers from 25 grams to 60 grams , raiders in the same weight range as well. I have the ones with the blue color stickers... Halco slices too, again small to medium sizes, but I dont use the larger sizes of them. And river2sea sea rocks from the tiny size up to 75 grams.... I use the snipers in port hacking and small sea rocks...

Kelvin, I use the dorado as well, and love it. Its only had a few outings off the rocks so far but it casts gars, sluggos, and metals up to 85 grams, and can handle up to 100 grams and for me is perfect for poppers too. I have however mated it to the dogfighter...extra capacity, and extra grunt as i probably will also be going and getting a gt86 for 80lb braid. Like you, I only target kings, but off the rocks, gotta stop em quick smart. A 4500 series would be a slightly better balanced outfit, but this still works, and can handle even more when thrown at it as hopefully will go for GTs sometime soon too. Nailed a THUMPER salmon on the weekend and the outfit didnt sweat it at all. Poor salmon didnt know what happened ! I backed the drag off as I pulled the lure out of another fish. Just need more time on the rocks to try it out more and nail some decent kings as well, not rats.Its a pricey outfit, but at least I dont have to worry about the handle falling off, or any other problems Ive had with cheap reels. Highly recommend that rod.... cheers

Pink, orange, blue, natural colours..one of each and like the others say, get good quality ones so they swim correctly. I have used el cheapos, and they work too, but it depends on where you are fishing. If you are on a wharf and sight fishing for them , then with some good rodwork you can keep them level and get good results. But I still go the better quality ones now. It pays to have different colours as after a while they when they have had a few goes at one colour, or seen some friends vanish, a change of colour can keep getting results.

Namesay - did I read somewhere you have a dorado 80tn as well....they are awesome rods...

Went after work to a local for some shallow water spinning for kings. Not the best tide for the spot, but landed a fat bonnie, dropped one, and had a few follows. Didnt get any follows from any kings, but will go back again when the tide is right. The penn 850 did a good job, but bonnies dont come close to stretching the 15kg outfit at all....should be hitting this spot and my other landbased spots more as the water warms and winds die off for some bigger action... cheers PS anyone know what happened to the MHL offshore water readings from the waverider....hasnt had data there for a while for sydney