Spot on Dicko,the skin is like TWICE as tough as a Jackets!
Sorry I couldn't reply as I nearly amputated the top of my thumb using an ultra sharp knife to fillet it
Copa, it was got on 15kg braid with a 2m 25lb vanish leader and a size 4 X strong hook no sinker and bread bait(as that was what they liked to eat)
Laredo it was over 40cm to the fork ,that was the length of my ruler