Penguin Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) I remember seeing a tv show not long ago and it was filmed in NZ. On this show it had volunteer fisheries inspectors going around the seaside issuing infringement notices for illegal fishing activities and confiscating under size or over bag limit fish.These volunteers had police radios and back up if I remember correct,and they had a tv crew follow them around a bit like that NZ cop show on fox, Police ten7,or Motorway patrol. It was very entertaining watching all these piscatorial crooks getting caught. Anybody else see it? Was on last year. penguin Edited March 16, 2007 by penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I remember seeing a tv show not long ago and it was filmed in NZ. On this show it had volunteer fisheries inspectors going around the seaside issuing infringement notices for illegal fishing activities and confiscating under size or over bag limit fish.These volunteers had police radios and back up if I remember correct,and they had a tv crew follow them around a bit like that NZ cop show on fox, Police ten7,or Motorway patrol. It was very entertaining watching all these piscatorial crooks getting caught. Anybody else see it? Was on last year. penguin yup saw it, forgot the name tho.. watched the bit when the two men got done for stashing literally over a hundred undersize snapper or so inside their boat. they were fined or something and the boat seized. taking a few undersized fish would be tolerable, but a hundred?? are u kidding me Cheers Davy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 It would be great to have an Australian version of that show, I'd watch it,and lots of other people out there may get the message after seeing so many idiots gettin caught. penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbielites Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 whether there are inspectors around or not, its still dissapointing to see illegal fishing around.. just last week we saw two fishermen fishing off a rock platform, keeping well undersize fish in the little rockpools nearby. when asked about it, they said they wernt theirs, keeping in mind that we saw them earlier placing them in the pools after capture i really have to start carrying the illegal fish hotline around. Cheers Davy Davy, Do you know what kind of fish were in the rock pool? I was abused by a guy at Fig tree point many years ago for pulling in Yakkas hand over fist and keeping them. All he saw was little fish going into the bucket.. Cheers. Robbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) Davy, Do you know what kind of fish were in the rock pool? I was abused by a guy at Fig tree point many years ago for pulling in Yakkas hand over fist and keeping them. All he saw was little fish going into the bucket.. Cheers. Robbie. Definitely, they were tiny bream, snapper and a little leatherjacket no bigger than the palm of my hand (duno if LJs have a legal limit tho). Cheers Davy Edited March 16, 2007 by Davy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) Since no body was willing to put their hand up and claim ownership, I would have turfed the fish back in the sea penguin Edited March 16, 2007 by penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livo Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 however was grabbed again on way home at Rhodes bridge ,and get this, was reprimanded (no fine just verbally) by the female officer, for not having a "WHISTLE" ie. like a postman has that you blow in,as it is compulsary as a "Warning device" I would imagine that it was a Waterways (MSB) vessel / officer that did this. Fisheries (DPI) officers would not concern themselves with your safety gear. If you've ever been to Hat Head where boaties enter the ocean through the very narrow creek mouth you may have noticed a big sign at the ramp informing that all vessel skippers must carry and sound a whistle at regular intervals to alert the swimmers of there passage. So in that situation you must have one. Other than that I have never heard of it as a compulsory item. It is a good idea though. I have two that are connected to the kids PFD's. As for Fisheries inspectors we don't see them around much but they do pop up. We were inspected at the ramp in Swansea Channel a few years back by two lovely young female officers. We passed no problems. I've seen them at work in Budgewoi Channel and in the outlet between Buff Point and San Remo. A while back they did a blitz on the F3 and pulled over cars towing boats. One of the boats they pulled over revealed illegal nets and a large haul of fish. The whole lot was confiscated. Car, trailer, boat, nets and catch. It made big news up here. It makes no difference to me whether they are there or not. Only keep keepers. I would like to know more about the issue using small fish as live bait though. I can't find any info on the fisheries website about using undersized fish for bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemmm Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 A sound signal device (whistle) IS compulsory under the NSW rules. This is the waterways site that sets it all out. http://www.waterways.nsw.gov.au/safetyequi...t.html#enclosed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmoshe Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) I would like to know more about the issue using small fish as live bait though. I can't find any info on the fisheries website about using undersized fish for bait. The rules are that you cannot use a fish as livie if it is subject to a size limit. If the fish doesn't have a size limit (ie: a yakka etc) then it's OK Hope this helps, Cheers, Pete Edited March 16, 2007 by MallacootaPete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livo Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I would like to know more about the issue using small fish as live bait though. I can't find any info on the fisheries website about using undersized fish for bait. The rules are that you cannot use a fish as livie if it is subject to a size limit. If the fish doesn't have a size limit (ie: a yakka etc) then it's OK Hope this helps, Cheers, Pete Thanks Pete. I'm sure there are many out there that don't know this. I didn't!!! Livo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmoshe Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Thanks Pete. I'm sure there are many out there that don't know this. I didn't!!! Livo Correction to my post: The rules are that you cannot use an undersized fish as livie if it is subject to a size limit. If the fish doesn't have a size limit (ie: a yakka etc) then it's OK Sorry if there was any confusion. Cheers, Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 oh good thing u corrected it there pete, had me worried for a second. ive been using legal tailor fillets for jews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livo Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 (edited) Correction to my post: The rules are that you cannot use an undersized fish as livie if it is subject to a size limit. If the fish doesn't have a size limit (ie: a yakka etc) then it's OK Sorry if there was any confusion. Cheers, Pete. Pete, I've downloaded the Fisheries pdf document Saltwater Guide 2006 / 2007 and it does not actually say that. By the way, I know you are correct in this but it's not written that way. It does say on page 34 "A fish which does not reach this minimum length must be immediately returned to the water". It doesn't say, however, that you have to remove the hook or that you can't put a different hook in. It is very loosely worded and one could argue that it is subject to interpretation. I feel that there should be a qualifying statement in that document specifically addressing the issue of live bait from size limited species. When a search is done for the term "Live Bait" in this document there are are only 3 instances and not one of them is related to using size managed species other than Poddy Mullet, which as you know is treated differently to all other species. While I now know otherwise, (thanks to Sammy and yourself), I have always held the belief that you could use small fish of any type as livies (or dead bait) and maybe you once could. My ancestors caught many large Flatties and Jew on livies of all types when I was a kid. Perhaps Fisheries needs to look at a revision on this document to take any confusion out of the issue. Just a thought. Greg Edited March 17, 2007 by livo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I remember seeing in the paper about 5yrs back that a guy got sprung at Penrhyn ramp Botany one night at 11.20pm he had over 200 fish on board his boat,and a big net that he used to catch these fish.I think over half the fish he got were Tailor,and I think he copped a $12,500 fine and loss of his boat. penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveD Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I saw coastguard today at port hacking, expected them to come around to the wharf and stop and check for licences or even say hello, they were coming towards the wharf then just kept going right past. Doesn't bother me either way really just a curiosity factor if anyone is interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traysexy Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 nah davo, coastguard have no authority at all.. they are literally just safety in a way.. jurisdiction??? I think thats the way to put it.. they have none of that.. they can only recommed that you do something, not enforce it:) pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie big bob Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Hi guys I have never been asked to see my licence here in Forster - but whenever I have been on a NSW stocked freshwater lake, I have been checked almost every time! Worst complaint was that my photocopy of the licence had been wet & not easy to read! So now i laminate them. I copy my licence about 10 times on my fax & then whack them thru a laminator. The original stays at home. One goes in each of my tackle bags & worming bucket & I sticky tape one onto my kayak, so I know it is always there! I thought they had honorary fishing inspectors in NSW - never seen any of them, either! Funny thing was that in 1999 I actually saw a fishing inspector down at Janeys COrner one day, but he only checked the blokes out - must have thought I didn't know what I was doing ..... I had caught more than the blokes! LOL! Cheers Roberta Roberta Will they except a photo copy as this is one brillant idea it just ashame i did not think of it cheers bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choad Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 (edited) It would be great to have an Australian version of that show, I'd watch it,and lots of other people out there may get the message after seeing so many idiots gettin caught. penguin best part of the show was listening to excuses in the new zealanders accent... two big mauri's loading up the back of a truck with buckets of some sort of clam in the middle of the night like seasoned pro fisherman: "i swiir bro, i didn't know." Edited August 14, 2007 by choad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcfusher Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 I saw plain cloths officers at pittwater boat ramp in march. they checked everyones boat and fishing licenses and checked the sizes. But its deffinatley an undermanned bussiness. needs more recruits just though id add my part Mcfusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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