The Best Alternative Jew Baits.

[jewgaffer]

It's been a fact since I was a kid that wherever you found an abundance of slimy mackerel you could count on jewies not being too far away. In fact if the water was deep enough you could always get good jew running livies at those same slimy mackerel spots at some time during the night.

They are indeed a choice jew bait but the trouble is you can never find them regularly enough when and where you need them for jew.

Luderick59 gave me an excellent idea to use big blackfish fillets to tempt jewies which I believe could be a big winner when there is an overabundance of baitfish around as like it or not the facts are that jew are very self sufficient and a very fussy and choosy feeders.

What I have always found works well with jew are unusual bait presentations and I believe with all the hi tech advances in scent formulas in soft plastics that some time in the future science they will produce an artificial bait that will really attract these elusive kinkgs of the river and estuary systems and give anglers a better chance to catch them.

In the meantime to be successful at catching jewies we just have to get used to their likes and dislikes or go without, it's as factual as that.

luderick 59's idea is an excellent one I reckon, so me and my deckie mate Hungarian Julius, a land based Taren Point Bridge Jewie specialist are off to buy a couple of Black Queens and some new hi tech blackfish gear. I've got a couple of old BFR fly reels so they'll do for the reels.

So I guess Julius and I are gunna look a bit like a couple of Elmer Fudds on safari gathering our next lot of jewie baits.

We are both jewie men so any advise you can give Julius and myself on which Black Queens and also the latest blackfish rigs will be most appreciated and the best advice wins a tub of non refrigeratable pilchard bait which I believe will last for well over 10 years in the family garage.

I remember one balmy summer night we were out late squidding at Dolan's wharf and the water was bursting at the seams with slimeys so we launched a couple of jewie rods using slimys as bait. We left the rods out for a helluva long time near forgetting all about them but occasionally noticing the tips just tapping away every now and then, just letting us know the slimys were still alive on the hooks.

When the slimys and everything else quietened right down, we started to clean up the wharf to get ready to go when a drunken navy bloke wandered onto the wharf and kept us entertained and in laughter for another hour or so.

Suddenly both rods got hit at near the same instant by good schoolies about 12 kilos a fish, in around 15 feett of water straight out square from Dolans wharf.

The sailor, wobbling around sporting a bottle of whisky tried to grab the other rod, overbalanced off the wharf and landed in the drink. So we had to gaff him by the collar to keep him afloat and walk the schoolies around him towards the boat ramp to land them.

It was the slimys that done the trick as I reckon those jewies actually came in looking for them .

We went back in full force in two boats a couple of nights later to fish a midnight tide between the wharf and the moored boats. There were no slimies around the wharf that night and after fishing on till dawn, no jew came in either.

Below is a bit of information on slimy mackerel and I reckon it makes a good read.

Slimy Mackerel are found in all Australian coastal waters preferring the cooler areas often forming into large surface schools. They enter coastal bays, harbours, inlets and estuaries with an attraction to wharves, jetties, shallow reefs and sandflats. The Slimy Mackerel found in outside coastal waters tend to school over reefy areas, around islands and headlands. Large schools of adult fish are common in deep offshore waters in the south where they can be found extending out to the continental shelf.

Even though mackerel is not considered to be a good eating fish, it does offer itself as excellent bait, and most fish, especially mullaway, find them irresistable. When schools of mackerel are evident, predators such as mulloway are never far away.

They respond to any burley. When using a baitfish rig, once a fish is hooked up, try leaving the rig in the water. The eratic motion of the hooked fish tends to excite the other fish to strike. Most cases allow you to retrieve the rig when three or more fish are hooked. They often come onto the bite at mid-morning and early afternoon. When boat fishing, they are often taken at estuary mouths over shallow waters outside reefs and sandflats.

Rig a few of these critters up in areas where jews don't usually find them and hang on to your hat!

now here's another hard one. Any member who gives us reliable information on regular spots to get slimys will also win a non rifigeratable tub of pilchard bait.

And those who have already volunteered some info on the whereabouts of slimys may be eligible to go into the barrel for the second draw.

cheers

jewgaffer

[roosterman]

Jewgaffer what can i say but for another great post full of good stuff ..

i am surprised that you have not used blackfish for jew bait before...

only issue if used live is the legality of releasing one under the 25cm (or soon 27cm) with some extra jewelery hanging off him... i know an old timer up the north coast who targets blackfish during the day and jew on certain times when conditions are right and uses the skin...yes skin only with the thin flesh you leave when correctly filleted.

now i met him through my old man and getting him to open up on the jew he used to regularly get was like asking for the last pilsoner from his fridge during a beer strike.... he swore by blackfish as jew bait and said he got heaps more than mullet or anything else over the years.. this was mainly beach fishing or off the stones from memory but 60lb+ fish were regular for him....

as for the slimies i recon they are great bait fresh or live just a bugger to get regularly.. there one day gone the next.... mackeral beach area in pittwater is about the best place i know in the hawks,either near wharf or around the moorings... hope this helps mate.... steve....

ps: if you need any help regarding the blackfish let me know...

Edited August 16, 2007 by roosterman

[andrias]

hi

i think clifton garden have slimy mackerel.

cheers

[luderick -angler]

jewgaffer,

do you know the doughboy at all? when the murk was pumping and it was too big too fish the low ledges you would fish up high on the chair, many a time a jew of in excess of 50lb estimate would come in from the deep water off the back of the pudding and surf in over the reef to snatch a luderick on your line, in fact me old mate used to fish till dusk for nigs then get his 3904 out and launch a live nig out on 80lb mono over the back of the reef off the chair or splashy, it was amazing the amount of jew caught on them.

other instances were old Jack in the 60'ds down hickson road off pier 6 he would fillet the nigshe caught locally leaving the guts in the frame he would then launch these out and catch jew to 40lb i have heard of the oldtimers up port, nambucca and yamba using a 2lb fish live to snare a big un!

On another point kingies seem to take a keen interest in them many a time in the harbour have i had kings to 80cm attack a blackie as i try to net him, the ywil come in and stalk the fish circling, anyone else seen this happen?

Cheers

LA

[CR@ZY OS@M@]

this is really good stories on this topic,top reads.keep em going.

we landed a jew not long ago in the harbour on a livie(yakka)

was around 7 to 8 kilo mark

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[Guest Ben75]

Gday jewgaffer

I fish for BlackFish from my kayak great fun . I am based at Hurstville if you ever want some BlackFish let me

know and I will get some for you . I was keen to start fishing for jewies and BlackFish was going to be my first bait to try. Send me a PM if you want and If I am heading out I will keep some and vaccum them for you

Cheers Ben

[jewgaffer]

jewgaffer,

do you know the doughboy at all? when the murk was pumping and it was too big too fish the low ledges you would fish up high on the chair, many a time a jew of in excess of 50lb estimate would come in from the deep water off the back of the pudding and surf in over the reef to snatch a luderick on your line, in fact me old mate used to fish till dusk for nigs then get his 3904 out and launch a live nig out on 80lb mono over the back of the reef off the chair or splashy, it was amazing the amount of jew caught on them.

other instances were old Jack in the 60'ds down hickson road off pier 6 he would fillet the nigshe caught locally leaving the guts in the frame he would then launch these out and catch jew to 40lb i have heard of the oldtimers up port, nambucca and yamba using a 2lb fish live to snare a big un!

On another point kingies seem to take a keen interest in them many a time in the harbour have i had kings to 80cm attack a blackie as i try to net him, the ywil come in and stalk the fish circling, anyone else seen this happen?

Cheers

LA

hi there luderick -angler I enjoyed your post very much so I best reply to your post and the equally good blackfish advice in a post from roosterman at the same time.

For years I've known of blackfish being a very special bait bait for jew but the thing is, although I had always thought about it quite a few times as one of the main missing ingredients, I never had any real opportunuty to be able to go and get a supply of blackfish to include among my alternate baits to launch at jew.

I have found small blackfish in the stomachs of rock and gutter jew on only a couple of occasions throughout the coast of NSW. In the Hawkesbury as another example as something outside the norm, I have noted small flathead and small whaler bull shark and small bass or were they estuary perch, i'm not sure, inside jew as well.

It was the wording of a post to me by luderick59 and the posts by Roberta, Stewy and Ross Hunter on the blackfish they were catching in cold general shutdown weather for most other species that got me excited enough to call Julius to discuss getting a supply of a blackfish to see if we could improve our results as apart from the five fish I got outside of my general area of Hawkesbury, being at Tom Uglies a few weeks ago I myself have had a pretty lean time with jew since the winter rain this year.

Though I have had a jew result every trip after the water cleared in June with my chiro Dr.Kevin Ivins ( I've had major back surgery and plenty of dislocations to add following that which Kevin has been man enough to take on and sort me out in between repairing the Parramatta football team and the Macq Uni rugby team).

Kevin is a keen new student of fishing and I just get a good feeling by getting him onto his prized fish, the jew, even though most of them have been not much more than soapies, we did get a few bonito, some pretty big tailor and kings way down deep in my best Broken Bay jew holes on one occasion when I got everything right for that day but only one jew.

Life's full of learning and it might take more than just blackfish to bring the winter schools in this late to counteract the overbundance of big winter yakkas as is what usually happens in June and July. I've got ideas about getting me and Julius and little jewgaffer, my grandson into blackfish for the times when everything is wrong for other fish and I can picture myself using either a black queen that has been mentioned in a post by Roberta and seconded by others or perhaps one of my own yankee Fenwick or Quarrow dual purpose fly spin rods.

But I reckon we'll do it all properly and use these Black Queens and get the best advice from the blackfish guns on this site and perhaps get centre pin reels and everything else right to make a proper go at our blackfishing mission.

I can picture it now when WE go off to stay with our friend Jimmy Bowers in Ballina , Shirl and I will be just able to pull over on the way along side a couple of blackfish rocks and get some fresh ones for our roadside barbie to better the usual taste of those same old bream and flathead.

It's nice to hear your mention of those old jewie greats and I guess they were a breed of their own where I am more of a cultivated bloke in jew fishing than the practical style of a blokes that they are.

I have great fishing mates in Ballina and Queensland and learn from them all the time and I think I just about know it all but to go out and do it all as well as they do is another ball game.

Nice chatting with you and I reckon there are some real blackfish men on this site that I would enjoy following round the blackfish traps any time, just prior to launching the jew rods that is coz it just keeps coming back in my thoughts.

Cheers

jewgaffer

[luderick -angler]

Jewgaffer,

i'll go you one better, i'll trade you catching blackies if you can put me on to a jew using my old sportex 3904 (built by Southams) just a thought would make an interesting 24 hopur marathon fishing session, the last time i had a jew on was well up the cooks river (behind the marrickville golf course) fishing for bream using one of my luight luderick rods and a 4inch pin, well at 70cm did'nt he give therod a workout!

Cheers

LA

Oh hi Ben!

[arpie]

to Fishraider, Ben!!! Great to be able to read your reports here, finally!! Keep em coming - my Mac doesn't work with the other mob & I can't be bothered changing my software!!! I am in awe of your pursuits around the bridge pylons down there & reckon you'd have fun under our bridge up here, on the change of tide!! We have lots of pylons to choose from! Just got a 40cm one near the leases the other day!! Did he pull, or what??? Glad someone else is into vacuum packing!!! Are they for jewie bait, or already gutted & scrubbed & ready for filleting?? You have me intrigued! Check out my method for crumbing & freezing blackies so you can cook them from frozen! Great for unexpected guests!

http://fishraider.com.au/Invision/index.php?showtopic=17392

Jewgaffer - no need to waste the lovley blackie fillets - just use the heads!! The pickers don't have a chance & very easy for the jewie to find! When i fillet my fish, I cut from the neck down to stomach cavity (they make a rude 'pfffartt' noise as you cut into the cavity) then I turn the knife & cut along the top of the stomach, removing all the gut & wing flaps as well! Shove a hook or 2 into his snout & guts & toss it back in ...... I reckon, with the smell of the guts attached, you have a much better chance of a hookup! ALso no worries about undersized fish being used! If using a whole live fish, place him in a white 40l bucket of fresh salt water for up to an hour (top up the water if he looks sluggish) and he will go from black to white! When you throw him back in (with some jewellry attached, to use Steve's phrase) it will stand out like a proverbial sore thumb!

Go out with LA, get your blackies & put a different method on each rod ..... sit back & see which one goes off first!!! Bet it is the head or the white livie!

You will enjoy getting into blackies, but be warned, it is highly addictive! You will enjoy fishing with LA (and any of the other BA's .... blackfish addicts .....) as they are eternally optimistic & usually come home with a feed, as you say, even when everything else is in shutdown mode! They are around aaaalllll year & just love structure!

HI LA - how cunning!! Get into blackies & jewies on the one outing! Wish I could be there!!!! Have fun!

Cheers

Roberta

[jewgaffer]

Jewgaffer what can i say but for another great post full of good stuff ..

i am surprised that you have not used blackfish for jew bait before...

only issue if used live is the legality of releasing one under the 25cm (or soon 27cm) with some extra jewelery hanging off him...

Hi again Roosterman,

Strike me lucky roosterman that part about the legality of releasing a blackfish with some extra jewellery hanging off him is really funny when you say it as naturally and as matter of factly as that and that's very original and that comment's very original and it really is a really good hunk of black humour, I tell ya

I am a lover of delayed action humour and your reflections on the legality of releasing an undersized blackfish from the loins of a jew just about had us in stitches in this household in funny debate on all the associated scenarios that I could hardly continue operating as a one finger typist for the rest of the night.

I reckon you sure could give the fishing inspectors penty of excuses if they witnessed you landing a jewfish with an undersized blackfish hanging out of its mouth.

No one but a fisherman could definitely say with a straight look on his face that they were fishing for those very large blackfish that always frequent the sandy drop off sections at that particular time of the so called mishap that led to such false allegations and subsequent charges, around the edges of very deep reefs and saying you must have jag hooked that small blackfish in the doesal fin and then this darn jewfish here just came along.

I reckon you'd finally get off the hook in the High Court of Appeal as I don't reckon three judges could ever agree unanimously on the legalities on what goes on in the mind of a fisherman whose fishing for big blackfish in all the wrong places and using hooks such as 10/0s on a kilo size sea cabbage.

I reckon you could just about argue such an excuse successfully these days even if you looked the least like the average beanie headed fisherman

cheers and thanks for the really good information and the nice old laugh which has always been good therapy when I have my bouts of buttock pain from sitting for too long after having back reconstruction surgery after a heavy fall.

With kind regards to you, Roosterman

jewgaffer

[kingpig]

Try putting live blackfish in a white kids blow up pool for about 1/2 a day.

They will change colour to silver due to the background and the sun light.

Use as live bait on a two hook snell rig at nigth. They are at there very best during the dark phase of the moon.

If done this way they will shine like a light in the water.

Some of the biggest jew I caught in rivers have been using blackfish this way.

Cheers

Kingpig

[jewgaffer]

Gday jewgaffer

I fish for BlackFish from my kayak great fun . I am based at Hurstville if you ever want some BlackFish let me

know and I will get some for you . I was keen to start fishing for jewies and BlackFish was going to be my first bait to try. Send me a PM if you want and If I am heading out I will keep some and vaccum them for you

Cheers Ben

Hi Ben forgive my late reply and by the look of these terrific photos you certainly know your blackfish very well indeed.

It is very kind of you to offer to stock up on some blackfish for Taren Point Julius and myself to use as alternative jewfish baits.

Members like yourself sure keep other fishos very knowledge wealthy and in your case most particularly in having the ability to huntdown blackfish in a little kuyak around great places like bridge pylons.

You mention you are keen to start fishing for jewies so on that note I feel it is very appropriate that I take this opportunity to invite you out to fish with Julius and myself at the Georges River bridges as soon as the swells move away from these persisting southerly directions and the cold currents and poor fishing conditions that go along with that.

Taren point Julius lives in Penshurst and I bring the Mustang centre console down from Campbelltown to pick him up when we fish the maraunding night jew in the Hacking or the Georges and he comes up here when we fish my preferred jew hunting grounds, in Sydney, the Hawkesbury.

It would be no problem to pick you up at Hurstville as that's my home town in my younger days and I think a Friday night might best suit fishing from near dark till dawn as the Georges and Hacking are strickly tidal for night marauding jew whereas I do most of my own hawkesbury sessions by day.

I'll keep contact by p.m.

cheers and Ben, many thanks for your kindness

jewgaffer

[luderick59]

[hi jewgaffer trybutterflying ablackie 2x8/0 s snelled 70cm trace 1 large bean sinker

both hooks onone side of fillet only other flaps in current

good method in strong tidal flow

regards peter

[jewgaffer]

Jewgaffer,

i'll go you one better, i'll trade you catching blackies if you can put me on to a jew using my old sportex 3904 (built by Southams) just a thought would make an interesting 24 hopur marathon fishing session, the last time i had a jew on was well up the cooks river (behind the marrickville golf course) fishing for bream using one of my luight luderick rods and a 4inch pin, well at 70cm did'nt he give therod a workout!

Cheers

LA

Oh hi Ben!

Hi LA.

Strike me lucky there's nothing I'd like more than having a fishing mate keen enough to doing a 24hour jewie marathon on the Hawkesbury

La you qualify and then some and that's for sure so I shall pm when the conditions are more favourable and I will keep in touch and I'd really like to see that old Sportex 3904 using a gerry can of oil as she went off like a catherine wheel firecracker giving off flashes of blue and white lightning in extra fast revolutions and then finally becoming airborne on a big Hawkesbury jew.

It would give me a chance to do the 15 different moves that usually only work out to be 3 or 4 up anchors in the time my fello fishos will allow in a normal 12 hour jew session, with the exception of my seven hills mate Italian Sam. Sam and I have been known to start on a Friday morning and come back on Sunday night sometimeS shoving jews at Sam's missus who loves cooking and eating jewfish in a type of apologetic very well connived and rehearsed peace offering with the usual miriad of believable excuses why we didn't come home earlier

We could get enough livies in 30 mins, squid in another hour, blackfish in maybe less than 60 minutes ? and then we could go off launching a 6 rod spread all around my very best spots on the day for the jew.

CHEERS

And LA thanks a million it would be good company, heaps of excitement and efficiency galore and of course hopefully here come the jew with a monstrous sized bi catch tagging along doing double summersaults behind them.

regards

jewgaffer

[hi jewgaffer trybutterflying ablackie 2x8/0 s snelled 70cm trace 1 large bean sinker

both hooks onone side of fillet only other flaps in current

good method in strong tidal flow

regards peter

YYep Peter that is certainly a good jewfish method in having the bait just wavering around looking fancy free and friendly in the current. Alot of jewie aspirants do make the mistake of overbaiting a hook in a cube like presentation.

Ialso like to cut a live in two pieces to present two baits on different rigs in the form of a mitre so that the baitfish will be L shaped to give the appearance of being longer and more streamlined rather than the the chunky squared off cut which is not as near appealing as a mitred cut which show plenty of flesh and blood along the length.

Thanks again Peter and I can only look forward to fishing with you and I reckon my good friends bobfish and humesy who both comes from up your way, along the mouth of Narrabeen or around the rocks near clontarf beach some day.

I reckon youse blackfish jew guys should meet up with me at Hwkesbury some day soon as my mustang centre console can fish 4 or even 5 with not much trouble at all .

cheers Peter and I tell ya what that gun lady fisho Roberta should make it a day to get down there with you blokes too.

With kind regards

jewgaffer

Edited August 17, 2007 by jewgaffer

[Guest Ben75]

Gday Roberta

Yeah they were caught with plans to use them for jewies vacuum sealed them guts and all ready to go .

That 40cm Blackie must of went hard I caught one today 34cm and it went like a rocket . Still cant crack my PB 35cm from the kayak yet Still fun trying

Gday jewgaffer

You are very welcome & thanks for the Invite Send me a PM when you are going to be around the bridge as I will get my kayak down there and paddle over and say gday . You dont know a guy buy the name of SOl do you he is like your self a jewie pro spins for them lures ? Make sure you send me a PM if you need some fresh blackfish and I will try and catch you a few .

Cheers Ben

[jewgaffer]

Gday Roberta

Yeah they were caught with plans to use them for jewies vacuum sealed them guts and all ready to go .

That 40cm Blackie must of went hard I caught one today 34cm and it went like a rocket . Still cant crack my PB 35cm from the kayak yet Still fun trying

Gday jewgaffer

You are very welcome & thanks for the Invite Send me a PM when you are going to be around the bridge as I will get my kayak down there and paddle over and say gday . You dont know a guy buy the name of SOl do you he is like your self a jewie pro spins for them lures ? Make sure you send me a PM if you need some fresh blackfish and I will try and catch you a few .

Cheers Ben

Hi again Ben, tell ya what Julius and I will get you into jewie targetting, don't you worry about that.

Yes I do know of a bloke called Sol. Also a water cop fishing mate of mine from Sans Souci told me there's a young bloke they've pulled alongside in a little 8 foot row boat who runs around the pylons by himself at night and one night over at Tom Ugly's they pulled alongside the little tub and noticed he had two big jewies about 4 feet long roped alongside in tow.

I hope your little Kayak will be able to support some of the fish that you are likely to get down those waters if you do it all right and I am being quite serious saying that, so with those words you can look forward optimistically to targetting jewies, Ben.

As soon as I get a chance I am going to post up some of Taren Point Julius, and our other mate Mulloway Mark's Taren Point photo collection to show our younger members and visitors to the site just what huge jew come out of those waters at night.

Only then it will register loud and clear in their minds as to the reality of monster size jew fish that can be caught in relatively small waterways so that they themselves will know that it really is there for the achieving coz the pictures will tell the story and also remind old stagers as well that the jew are still regularly coming in down there.

Believe it or not jewies are a very common estuary fish and it's just that there such self supporting, fussy critters but they are far removed from being all that cunning as they are often described.

Cheers Ben.

jewgaffer

[luderick -angler]

jewgaffer,

i'll take you up on that when i get back from England (approx 4 weeks) on the hawkesbury, theres somre good luderick spots like long island (sanitarium rock, the western point) the icicles, cow rock etc on sportex rods the 3904 might bew a but big for a boat its 13' 6" thoug hi do have a beautiful full action sportex that is jusy under 11ft made up for an overhead and shes dying to be used and abused by a jew! as well.

It might be just me but theres somethingabout sportex blanks that no other glass rod can match vintage or modern, i'll put it to any fisho from bream to tuna that there were no better rods than sportex i've got dads 663 and 504 and they both are 40 years plus and have caught more fish than i've had hot dinners are still going and i've actually had more trouble with modern rods and their faults (i've had two snyder glas rods fracture and a pacific comp give a third of the way up the rod) and the ywere not being mis used in the process Sorry i've gone off topic. Any ways thanks for the offer buddy and i wouldlove to team up soon i'll even bring a flask of bundy up to put in the coffee if its cold!

And look out for a post from old blighty wit hme tangling with sea trout, barbel anfd the like on the hampshire - avon near bournmouth! A holiday at last!

Cheers

Royce. (aka LA)

[jewgaffer]

jewgaffer,

i'll take you up on that when i get back from England (approx 4 weeks) on the hawkesbury, theres somre good luderick spots like long island (sanitarium rock, the western point) the icicles, cow rock etc on sportex rods the 3904 might bew a but big for a boat its 13' 6" thoug hi do have a beautiful full action sportex that is jusy under 11ft made up for an overhead and shes dying to be used and abused by a jew! as well.

It might be just me but theres somethingabout sportex blanks that no other glass rod can match vintage or modern, i'll put it to any fisho from bream to tuna that there were no better rods than sportex i've got dads 663 and 504 and they both are 40 years plus and have caught more fish than i've had hot dinners are still going and i've actually had more trouble with modern rods and their faults (i've had two snyder glas rods fracture and a pacific comp give a third of the way up the rod) and the ywere not being mis used in the process Sorry i've gone off topic. Any ways thanks for the offer buddy and i wouldlove to team up soon i'll even bring a flask of bundy up to put in the coffee if its cold!

And look out for a post from old blighty wit hme tangling with sea trout, barbel anfd the like on the hampshire - avon near bournmouth! A holiday at last!

Cheers

Royce. (aka LA)

Royce we most definitely will go up when you get back from England and beat those waters to a white foam in the Hawkesbury and that's for sure and certain.

I hope we can grab Stewy, Pete luderick59 or the multi talented bobfish, the thinker inhlanzi, the patient humesy or young ben75 who is asking out for more jew experience for his good blackfish contributions, for a 24hour session where we can be running well managed rods everywhere for good results and better numbers of fish.

I'll be in full flight, I'd forget about the bad back and put on a superman suit just to get there faster, that's for sure.

Forgot to tell you my mustang centre console can fish 3 in the circular bow lounge area and we'd hardly know they were there from the stern positions.

Do bring along the 13 1/2 foot rod it's not a problem whatsoever in my boat lay out but make sure you bring that awesome 11ft overhead rod too. Fine equipment always gets balanced out and rewarded with fine fish.

I get taren point Julius to bring his dirty big beach rods to get the range of the jew peekabu locations in case they're around adjacent pylons, they're not gunna put one over us, those lazy ones, at the business end and that's for sure .

My mustang centre console has 17 rod holders mostly Tommy Marine extra heavy duty stainless steel grab rail mounts and I often use beach rods as range finders and for distance casting back to near shore spots to dig out if I think it appropriate, launching them out as hard as beach rods for example off the bow rail angles.

I also have the inbuilt rod holders facing the same way down the rear of the gunnels so that I can use 10' rods to get longer casting range and have them stand well above to keep bloom out braid away from the 7' and 9' rods at the stern.

Mate the old jewgaffer is really excited about albino coloured blackfish dragging "leg irons" and ankle chain and balls" around and looking rather foolish in the middle of areas where jewie volcanos are likely to erupt. I'll be there hopefully with our star 24/7 bait collector as well, little jewgaffer, aged 10.

Royce I hope you enjoy your holiday in the good old Brittania Rules the Waves and pm when you get back coz that 4 weeks will sure roll over the water on the Hawkesbury for a much better spring result as they'll be well out of hibernation towards spring time and by the very nature of the bad winter water conditions, they'll be bloody well a bit more than just ravenous, I tell ya.

Cheers Royce and thanks for the blackfish hints mate , this site can be marvellous for friendly and willing help and advice like that, I tell ya

jewgaffer

p.s. I nearly forgot but only a teaspoon of bundy will be just the shot in hot coffee and it's even just the right warmth you need when jew fishing in a heatwave

Edited August 18, 2007 by jewgaffer

[Guest Ben75]

Gday jewgaffer

Yeah Sol is an awsome jewie fisho he used to be a fisheries inspector there at Sans Souci your mate probaly met him. The guy I think who rows over to the pylons works at a local tackle shop He would paddle over and get up onto the pylons and flick SP for them used to get a few . When I do go for one of my kayak I think if my anchor doesnt hold i will be going for a jewie sleigh ride

Cheers Ben

[jewgaffer]

Gday jewgaffer

Yeah Sol is an awsome jewie fisho he used to be a fisheries inspector there at Sans Souci your mate probaly met him. The guy I think who rows over to the pylons works at a local tackle shop He would paddle over and get up onto the pylons and flick SP for them used to get a few . When I do go for one of my kayak I think if my anchor doesnt hold i will be going for a jewie sleigh ride

Cheers Ben

Yes Ben you better not use tight drag in a rod holder in the yak specially one anywhere near the bow. You could well go off for a nice old sleigh ride as you'll hook up to some pretty powerful jew down there.

You should see Julius, Mark, Eddie and Domenic when you see headlamps on the rocks. They are a part of a pretty close jew fraternity under Taren Point bridge at night.

Julius reckons they have caught a couple of good schoolies there lately too.

I'll send you a pm when I'm next coming down with the boat to pick up Julius and we'd really appreciate some blackfish for jew bait and as already said we welcome you to come along and fish with us as well, Ben

regards

jewgaffer

[Guest Ben75]

Gday jewgaffer

Mate yeah I never have my drag set hard on the kayak just asking for it When I anchor up I have a float setup to my anchor line so If I have to unclip i can and come back to it . Yeah no probs send me a PM when you are heading down and I will get some if you give me just a little notice .I might even be able to paddle them over to you hows that for service And thanks again for the welcome .

Cheers Ben

[jewgaffer]

Gday jewgaffer

Mate yeah I never have my drag set hard on the kayak just asking for it When I anchor up I have a float setup to my anchor line so If I have to unclip i can and come back to it . Yeah no probs send me a PM when you are heading down and I will get some if you give me just a little notice .I might even be able to paddle them over to you hows that for service And thanks again for the welcome .

Cheers Ben

Yep I just noticed this reply of yours Ben and I must say Julius and I would be very impressed having whole blackfish and fillets for jew bait home delivered by kuyak.

Mate that would be what you would call 5 star service and delivering blackfish boat to boat by kuyak could be a great future business venture

We'll have hot coffee and fresh donuts waiting when you come aboard. I reckon we'd be able to use the kayak as a sea anchor if it gets windy.

One day up north we chucked a line to a couple of drenched fat blokes in a little tub with one oar and spinning out of control in a southerly and tied them up to us, kept on fishing and used the fat blokes as a drogue to hold us there coz we would have got nice and wet ourselves coming out of that spot into the main river and the fat blokes were already drenched so we just stayed there waiting for the storm to pass and the tide to give us more water to get back.

Thanks a million, Ben

cheers

jewgaffer