arpie Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) Hi guys I have 2 yaks my Perception Minnow Sit in and my Hobie SPorts Mirage Sit on Both have plenty of rod holders & a great anchor system, so i can move it from the front to the back or set it anywhere in between. My Hobie has a fish finder (Cuda 168) on it & is fantastic for finding dropoffs & keeping me away from shallow water, so i don't damage the pedals. I use my sit-in when i go into the leases - it already has quite a few external scratches (nothing serious) from altercations with oyster racks & poles - whereas I only take my Hobie outside of the leases. The hobie is brilliant for lure casting, as you can pedal as you go, leaving your hands free to cast whereas the Minnow really has to be tied off to something or have the anchor down to fish easily. If you drift with the current, you can end up a long way away from the area you actually want to fish, whereas the hobie allows you to make adjustments & pedal whilst you fish, against the tide without much effort! It opens up such a diverse choice of fishing waters - some of which the normal boats just can't get into! The Stealth factor has to be tried to be believed .... and you are getting some exercise whilst you are having fun! First thing in the morning, in the quiet, it is almost spooky it is sooo good! Look forward to seeing more Raider Kayaks (or plain kayaks as well!) Cheerio Roberta great yaks Edited August 24, 2007 by Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregL Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Nice post Roberta I always wanted to know the benifits of each style of yak(paddle or peddle). Love the look and set up of those mirages. What sort of car do you drive and do you put it on roof racks? Easy to get on and off? I was worried I couldnt lift it onto the roof racks of my SUV. Cheers Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylo Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Roberta, can you explain what you use as an anchor and how it works ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpie Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) Hi Greg The main difference that I find between the two are that you usually get a bit wetter in a sit-on! and they are a bit heavier than a similar sized sit-in. That is the main reason I stuck with the smaller for both types - I have to be able to load & unload them absolutely on my own with no assistance. I had a Hobie Outback, but it was just too long & heavy for me to handle on my own, so I downsized to the Sport. I sold my Outback & bought my Sport on Raider's Swap & Sell! within a matter of weeks of listing! Check out Stylo's previous thread that has a lot of info in it: http://fishraider.com.au/Invision/index.php?showtopic=23617 There really is an upsurge in fishing yaks just now & the hands free (whether electric motor or pedal) make for easier travel & fishing! But both have advantages that the other doesn't. We've got a funny little Suzuki Carry Ute (no bigger than a Ford Laser) which my husband built kayak racks for his (then) racing yak (longer than our ute, so had to go on top!) Both my yaks fit in the tray at the back... just! The heavier ones that have to go on top can be a bit awkward putting on top of a SUV (specially the really tall ones) but that is where the extender bar becomes your best friend!! There are numerous ways of fitting one, but remember to put an angle on the extended end - to prevent your yak from slipping off with wind or other interference! Don't want to drop it from a height! So far, ours haven't needed the bar, but I have seen it in action on others. With the longer yaks, instead of busting your guts picking the whole thing up, You prop one end up on the extender bar with the angled end, then go to the rear & pick up the other end & pop it on the rack. Then go to the first end & pop it on the rack & slide the extender pole back & secure it. Anyone without the space for a boat should look at getting a yak! They really are terrific fun as well. Eventually, each family member will want their own one!! They can be hung from the ceiling, too, or off the walls of your garage, so don't have to take up floor space. Hi Stylo I have a galvanised 2kg folding anchor (usually less than $20.) and find it sufficient for my needs in the lake system here. Have at least .5m chain as well. If going outside, you may need a heavier one. I attached a stainless steel pulley & D shackle to each of the handles (assuming they are each end!) Then I run a length of rope between both pulleys & where they meet again, I basically use a double uni knot to tie them off to each other (so the rope is fairly snug & runs back & forth freely!) Then attach a length of rope/parachute cord (10-20m) between the knots & tie it off securely! Tie the chain to the other end & a D shackle & the anchor as well. It is actually recommended to attach the anchor 'upside down' and secure the arm to a bit of the chain with one of those plastic ties. If you ever get snagged, just give a sharp tug, & the plastic tie gives way & you pull the anchor up by its bottom, instead of actually pulling it tighter onto the snag if secured the normal way. You can adjust the length of the rope you have out by just tying it off to the knot area on the main rope. This way, you can freely adjust the anchor from front to back. ALways be very careful when tying off from the rear - the last thing you want is a big wave or boat wash coming in & swamping you from behind! Some also attach a float to the top of the anchor rope, in case in emergency, & you have to cut the rope. This enables you to go back later & hopefully retrieve it. I have had to do that in the leases here, when snagged, but just cut the rope & tied it to the lease, waited for low tide, then went out again & retrieved it easily. This one actually has another 10m on a retractable setup behind the seat! I have since 'reversed' the anchor, too, for easy retrieval from a snag. This shows the shackle/pulley Always make sure you have a safety horn with you, should you get into trouble. This red one, you can hear up to 1km on the water! Just mouth powered - not gas! You can get them from any reputable tackle shop, or the coast guard (here anyway) also sells them. By law, you are supposed to have one. Cheerio Roberta Also check out this bit on yak fishing http://www.helipress.com/trailers/KayakFishingsample.pdf Edited August 25, 2007 by Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingmik Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 got the same as you roberto hobie sports fisherman they are 1 awsome fishing machine easy to handle and they can go any where as you have said evan off shore i cant wait for summer and live bait for some kingys cheers mik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpie Posted August 26, 2007 Author Share Posted August 26, 2007 Hi Mik Very similar to mine - even to where the fishfinder is located!! How come you keep the paddles separated .... or do you only take out the one?? Cheers Roberta Good luck with the Kingies - keep us posted! Just went out in my minnow to hit the blackies - shoulda had 4 but only one in the net! Two dropped & one biiiig bustoff! GO back tomorrow & try again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingmik Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 the only time i use the paddle is to measure the fish i have one of them stickers on one half and to push away from mangroves or rocks if i get to close mik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirks Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Whats the go on the mirage drive system. Does it work well, fast? Can you fold the fins? What do you guys rekon a good price for a sport would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylo Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Search youTube for Hobie Sport and you will find a video of the system. Around $2k, no change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpie Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 Hi Kirkby - one went in WA for $1100 + courier $60 to the east coast ..... a steal!!! A second hand one should be about $1500 .... a new one over the $2000. I got mine with a fish finder for $1600 & was very happy with that! Keep your eyes & ears open & if an opportunity arises, grab it!! They hold their price & don't last long on an open market!! Cheers Roberta You can replace the normal fins with Turbo fins & go faster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domza Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 just curious, how do those 'sit on' ones go in a bit of wash from other boats and chop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpie Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 Hi Domza I rarely get wet (other than my legs when getting in) in my Hobie Sport, but because of the pedals, you need slightly deeper water .... but I know others who get wet everytime when paddling in theirs - not always in chop & boat turbulence! Your rear end should not get wet on every outing - only when raining! My advice would be to try all models & designs & see for yourself! Cheers Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tentonner Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 (edited) Gday guys seeing as there's a fair few people with experience in kayak fishing here i thought i'd ask as ive been interested in a hobie kayak for ages because they look like such fun. One question i have is where do u store your tackle box? i think ive seen some people put it behind their seat, but it looks very awkward to be reaching behind there for various bits of tackle? Whats the solution to this? Edited October 20, 2008 by tentonner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpie Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Hi Tentonner The new hobies have a tacklebox designed specifically for the middle hatch. I have a multi layered round thing that came originally with nails & screws & handyman stuff in it - just chucked that out & made it into my tackle box (as I didn't get the Hobie one when I bought mine!) Each layer is for a specific style of lure - poppers, chubby type, sx40 type, & jig heads Check out the Revolution for sale in the For Sale section & there is a photo of it. You can stick stuff behind the seat, but I usuallly put it either in the hatch or in the little wells on either side of the yak. The best thing is to only take out a limited number of lures & use them well, rather than take out a whole tackle shop (as most of us usually do) ..... and still end up using your 10 favourite lures (not the 50 you took out!) Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingmik Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 (edited) sold the sports a while ago and got the revolution mate i have the tackle box that goes in the hatch between your legs and i also carry one of those sp bags with 10 pockets to carry my sps see on the side were there is the mesh pockets i put the gulp packets in there easy to get and they dont come out Edited October 20, 2008 by fishingmik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I love your setup Roberta. Took some photos of you yesterday near wharf street. The local Forster icon! Hi guys I have 2 yaks my Perception Minnow Sit in and my Hobie SPorts Mirage Sit on Both have plenty of rod holders & a great anchor system, so i can move it from the front to the back or set it anywhere in between. My Hobie has a fish finder (Cuda 168) on it & is fantastic for finding dropoffs & keeping me away from shallow water, so i don't damage the pedals. I use my sit-in when i go into the leases - it already has quite a few external scratches (nothing serious) from altercations with oyster racks & poles - whereas I only take my Hobie outside of the leases. The hobie is brilliant for lure casting, as you can pedal as you go, leaving your hands free to cast whereas the Minnow really has to be tied off to something or have the anchor down to fish easily. If you drift with the current, you can end up a long way away from the area you actually want to fish, whereas the hobie allows you to make adjustments & pedal whilst you fish, against the tide without much effort! It opens up such a diverse choice of fishing waters - some of which the normal boats just can't get into! The Stealth factor has to be tried to be believed .... and you are getting some exercise whilst you are having fun! First thing in the morning, in the quiet, it is almost spooky it is sooo good! Look forward to seeing more Raider Kayaks (or plain kayaks as well!) Cheerio Roberta great yaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damobows Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Hey guys, Attached photo of my Wavedance "kingfisher" a company from melbourne - value for money wise they are great not as flash as the hobies but my 4.1m is decked with 2 flush mount rod holders asd plenty of storage and have just added a Hummingbird 210 finder as I do a fair bit of live baiting for Kings in the Bay. Delivered with holders $1000 not too bad. Cheers Damo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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