Davemmm Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Is the old story of overheads casting further than eggbeaters still true or are the flash new reels at a similar level in the casting stakes? Also what are any other advantages of an overhead? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basserman Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Is the old story of overheads casting further than eggbeaters still true or are the flash new reels at a similar level in the casting stakes? Also what are any other advantages of an overhead? Dave alot of verables there for light weight stuff like light jighead and soft plastics or small bream and bass lures then a spin reel wins hands down however when dealing with heavyer things like bigger lures or even a surf rig then the good old overheads still cast a mile easyest way to see this is to look at the castings comps and the distance those fellas can get from a overhead with a lump of lead it will also depends on the user i myself can always cast ferther with a spin reels than i can with any overhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caranx Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 For light lures I prefer spin reels, but constant casting with lures in the 65 to 140 gram mark, overheads are much more comfortable . Another advantage is that you can usually get more line on an overhead than a spin reel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evets Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dave, I have been using overheads for a loong time. I can cast them at least as far as the eggbeaters I have. With heavier lures or baits the baitcasters cast much much further. Just takes a lot of practice with the lighter stuff. To give you an example I used to cast 7 gram hard body lures for redfin with my bait caster just as far as my fishing mates using the same lures with their eggbeaters. Took a lot of practice to get there - but it can be done. The obvious advantage of any overhead is the lack of line twist and in most cases a better drag system. Downside (other than learning how to cast them properly) is that I need quite a lot of space to use my overhead - probably because I have a flyfishing background and like waving the rod around to cast. Evets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottyscotty Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 what would be the minimum lure weight be for baitcasters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evets Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Hottyscotty, I can cast 7 gram lures, though I have been been using baitcasters for well over 20 years. If you are learning to cast baitcasters I think that 30-50 grams would be about right. You need to make sure that the baitcaster is set up correctly for the weight. To do this there is a knurled knob on the side of the baitcaster. It needs to be done up and then loosened just enough for the sinker to move when the rod is wiggled up and down. You dont want the sinker just to fall to the ground. Try not to cast too far either. Try for a 5-6 meters and get a feel for the baitcaser. A gentle lob is a good way to do this. If your baistacser has a cast control (different to the knurled knob) start with it up near the maximum and when you can cast the baitcaser quite well loosen it up a bit to get more distance. Takes a bit of practice to able to use the baitcaser and a lot of practice to be really good with them. Evets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane87 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 With a high quality baitcaster outfit it is possible to throw down to just a couple of grams. Once you are quite good at it you will be able to throw small lures like sx-40's although it is much easier to cast these light weights on light spinning outfits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fish33 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 (edited) I fish rocks and beach with overheads and when need be can hit 100m + with 4 ounces & a pillie. With beach rods and heavier weights I find overheads are easier to hit bigger distances. Up the park I can get around the 200m mark with a 4 ounce lead and I dont have the technique 100% right. The world record cast is 286m. Gary Edited October 5, 2007 by fish33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomahawk1999 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 (edited) Hi Davemmm, I grew up in the early day's of spinning off the rocks and back then it was seascapes versus mitchell 499's. And the seascape guy's alway's won out in the distance stakes! When spinning off the stones even now, I use an old shimano speedmaster 6-1 overhead and casting a 3oz arrow I can easily hit 100 metres. Don't know of any threadlines that will throw that far? Regard's Rod. Edited October 6, 2007 by tomahawk1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbink Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 The friction of the line coming off the lip of the spool works against threadlines (and to a lesser extent alveys) for long distance casting. In contrast to spool of an overhead reel has momentum and literally spews out line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fish33 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Here is a technically average 150m cast I did this morning trying a new rod. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhxc8kTjWTs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrGL3jF0_WQ Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDiko Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 I must say nice technique mate. I reckon I'll have to practice how to cast like that for the next time I go beach fishing when I need to get right out there. IFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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