pjbink Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 ok were off topic again .one last time it is a survey using a random phone call system there is no science to it it is mathamaticly flawed a bit like a polly pole a stab in the dark at best it did'nt even take into consideration the blackmarket or fish sold in inter. waters by the pro's and resold in png to asia if you belive surveys then were probely not in resesson and the usa has only just gone into one we may have to agree to dis agree cherrs gary Doesn't the term 'peer review' mean anything to you? By the way the blackmarket consists of amatuers selling their catch - if they were licensed pro's then it wouldn't be 'black'. If the survey doesn't take them into account then this is an under reporting of the amateur catch and the survey results are lower than the real catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickman Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 the black market catch i'm talking about is by pro's selling there catch in inter.waters as prev.discribed yes i know what peer reveiw means and is about as much worth as a survey this is not hear say it is fact 2 boats 1 regestered in tonga 1 regestered in somoa 1 long liner1 trawler nz crew australian master if they get a big catch of fish they head to inter.waters and sell there catch for cash and fuel no tax the fish goes to png and then to japan i do'nt need to run a survey and have a peer group reveiw the findings to know this is fact i have seen it first hand i know 3 pro fishermen and 1 is a roge that's 1 in 3 lets run a survey 1200 pro's 1 in 3 in a roge that's 400 roge pro's how much fish do they pilfer who knows but it would be many tonnes i'm shore fact or fable o i forgot we need a peer group to reveiw this then we can call if fact now i know why ross baled gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbink Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 the black market catch i'm talking about is by pro's selling there catch in inter.waters as prev.discribed yes i know what peer reveiw means and is about as much worth as a survey this is not hear say it is fact 2 boats 1 regestered in tonga 1 regestered in somoa 1 long liner1 trawler nz crew australian master if they get a big catch of fish they head to inter.waters and sell there catch for cash and fuel no tax the fish goes to png and then to japan i do'nt need to run a survey and have a peer group reveiw the findings to know this is fact i have seen it first hand i know 3 pro fishermen and 1 is a roge that's 1 in 3 lets run a survey 1200 pro's 1 in 3 in a roge that's 400 roge pro's how much fish do they pilfer who knows but it would be many tonnes i'm shore fact or fable o i forgot we need a peer group to reveiw this then we can call if fact now i know why ross baled gary So I take it you have reported these 'facts' to our fisheries authorities (and the ATO). PS Internation waters are 200nm off the coast. They will need all that ill gotten fuel just to get back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewhunter Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 This is getting Keep it on track or I will close it. Jewhunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickman Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 hey pin i;ve had a chat to a few labor party members with a few beers and the general feeling was they need the green vote and will probely go with flow lust to keep bob happy maybe the greens are the ones we need to put the pressure on more so than the gov,your thoughts cherrs gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleyboy Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) Lets take this further off topic .. hehehe As a person the works for the DECC (who has nothing to do with policy or MPA's) i can safely say that if anyone wants to get a general picture of how government departments work ... watch a show called the "The Hollowmen" which was recently done by the ABC. Its damn scary how close to reality it is!!! Edited November 17, 2008 by daleyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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