olitay Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Hi Raiders, im wanting a good (well priced) anchor whinch, preferably with free fall and something I can mount in the anchor well not on the bow.. Any ideas?? please pm me.... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Hi Billy, My boat is a 4.50M runabout and has a anchor winch. Pictures are below. Cost me $499.95. Model is a 710F, which is the freefall mode. When anchoring, you can lower the anchor bit by bit, or free fall. I have sent you a PM with the details of the company and where to get them from if you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olitay Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thanks Glen, thats the exact model im looking for!!! know all i need is the sarcor anchor and im set!!! Thanks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 woahhhh...Luv your setup chopper ! Looks the perfect size unit too and might be perfect for me as well. Nice price too for a freefall unit. Some require specialist chain/rope setups for them esp when u get into the bigger stuff...could/did you create your own setup for it or did u buy it from them ?...because its a huge advantage if it can be adapted to needs. I'm looking for something like that myself....going to also use one or two of the small stainless LED lights that are getting cheaper by the minute into the underside of bowrail. Wired up the guts of the rail and a simple switch back to the dash/console. At night/low light its a huge help when out by yourself to see whats going on with a windlass/winch at a glance. p.s. luuuuurrrvvvv the twin stainless tooters. Perfect for 5am at the ramp too ! The company who makes this anchor winch if top notch. Extremely help with customer service. When you buy this winch, you excellent instructions on how to install, and what type of chain and rope you need. Basically for the model I have you need 6mm short link chain, and 12mm three strand rope. You can get this at any boat store as it is common rope and chain. My boat is 4.50m, and I was just getting sick of bending over to retrieve an anchor, and getting covered in crap. This way all I do is turn a switch to free fall the anchor, or retrieve the anchor. All done without leaving my seat If you want details about the winch and where I got it from, feel free to PM me. I love my twin horns. Certainly make a noise. Sounds like a ferry now Thanks Glen, thats the exact model im looking for!!! know all i need is the sarcor anchor and im set!!! Thanks mate No worries Billy. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelican Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) Make sure you allow extra $ for the correct wiring. Most failures I have seen are due to poor electrical set up offering poor performance. Strong mountings are required so check that as it may add considerable cost strengthening anchor well and the bowsprit. For the $ and convenience what about the simplicity of a anchor ball retriever or is it for inshore as some can be very slow on deep retrieve ? Get quotes on real speeds under loads not their free speeds if you know what I mean. They can be very frustrating holding position on the drop if they don't free spool and you can't stop them mid spool. Just supply the deck wench with some extra coffee on each outing. I love em when they work right and have got better over the years but geeze they can be a pain. Edited June 27, 2009 by pelican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Make sure you allow extra $ for the correct wiring. Most failures I have seen are due to poor electrical set up offering poor performance. Strong mountings are required so check that as it may add considerable cost strengthening anchor well and the bowsprit. For the $ and convenience what about the simplicity of a anchor ball retriever or is it for inshore as some can be very slow on deep retrieve ? Get quotes on real speeds under loads not their free speeds if you know what I mean. They can be very frustrating holding position on the drop if they don't free spool and you can't stop them mid spool. Just supply the deck wench with some extra coffee on each outing. I love em when they work right and have got better over the years but geeze they can be a pain. wiring is very important. I bought 8mm 2 core electric wiring from an auto electrician. Perfect for this job. Not sure for the cost of this in Sydney, but up here I bought about 15 metres as I keep some for spare for around $55. Retrieval on my model is around the 17-20metre mark per minute. So I am happy with that. As I said earlier, you can free spool the anchor, or stop mid drop. You can do whatever you like. You can also turn the free spool mode off if you just want to lower the anchor in stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsswordfisherman Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 The company who makes this anchor winch if top notch. Extremely help with customer service. When you buy this winch, you excellent instructions on how to install, and what type of chain and rope you need. Basically for the model I have you need 6mm short link chain, and 12mm three strand rope. You can get this at any boat store as it is common rope and chain. My boat is 4.50m, and I was just getting sick of bending over to retrieve an anchor, and getting covered in crap. This way all I do is turn a switch to free fall the anchor, or retrieve the anchor. All done without leaving my seat If you want details about the winch and where I got it from, feel free to PM me. I love my twin horns. Certainly make a noise. Sounds like a ferry now No worries Billy. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. This company was so professional that they are now proud sponsors of fishraider http://fishraider.com.au/Invision/index.php?showtopic=42194 Check them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Fantastic news to have South Pacific Industries aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 wiring is very important. I bought 8mm 2 core electric wiring from an auto electrician. Perfect for this job. Not sure for the cost of this in Sydney, but up here I bought about 15 metres as I keep some for spare for around $55. Installing a winch is on my " to do list". After doing the normal research around the web several months ago , South Pacific were the choice. Visited their showroom at Castle Hill to view the different types & the demo's on display. Chopper raises a good point , the winch is one thing , the electrics another. SP have that covered with a range of cable , switches , circuit breakers etc , ie , one stop shopping Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Great topic guys, lots of answers to almost all of my questions about winches, bar one. Whats the story with the rope to chain? IE is the rope simply eye spliced or is it a special knot? I am imagining that an eye splice would be a little thick to go through the winch at the joint point? Cheque book at the ready here, I've been saving for this item & got all confused about going all chain or chain / rope. Now that I've seen the setup I know it works, just need to know how? PS - lights idea is great & yeah, those hooters are cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Thanks for the chat and the thumbs up on the south pacific anchor you brought Billy.......I intend adding an electric winch myself to my 15 1/2 foot Savage side console alloy boat ..... I had a friend who had an electric winch that was matched to suit the anchor size recommended for the boat.....The winch used to struggle a bit at times so I'll be definately upping the winch size.....I reckon you need to have extra head room for deep water and particularly to allow for windy days, swell, wake and currents etc when you need to use an anchor above the size of the anchor that the boat is rated for... Glen you mentioned that an auto electrician installed your winch and used 8mm 2 core electric wiring .....are these automotive cables and are they also tinned marine cables ? I also like the advice of Boomer, the quality of the fittings and the guage of all the wiring has to be taken into account as well...what is the optimum wiring guage as far as the electrics that run electric winches are concerned? Cheers jewgaffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thanks for the chat and the thumbs up on the south pacific anchor you brought Billy.......I intend adding an electric winch myself to my 15 1/2 foot Savage side console alloy boat ..... I had a friend who had an electric winch that was matched to suit the anchor size recommended for the boat.....The winch used to struggle a bit at times so I'll be definately upping the winch size.....I reckon you need to have extra head room for deep water and particularly to allow for windy days, swell, wake and currents etc when you need to use an anchor above the size of the anchor that the boat is rated for... Glen you mentioned that an auto electrician installed your winch and used 8mm 2 core electric wiring .....are these automotive cables and are they also tinned marine cables ? I also like the advice of Boomer, the quality of the fittings and the guage of all the wiring has to be taken into account as well...what is the optimum wiring guage as far as the electrics that run electric winches are concerned? Cheers jewgaffer JG I have a SP catelog with all the info. Will bring it with me on Monday Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 JG I have a SP catelog with all the info. Will bring it with me on Monday Geoff I had a feeling you would come in on this one Geoff By the way lunch at my place on Monday will be boiled mullet in white sauce, with ocra and eggplant with a soda water burp extractor just in case Cheers jewgaffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Hi, we have sold and rigged a fair few South Pacific winches and they work very well indeed. On the subject of the rope and chain, make sure you get the right size rope and chain for the winch and yes the splice is a bit hard if never spliced before, but you can source the correct rope and chain already spliced. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olitay Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 As I mentioned in the original post, I did have some teething problems with the winch, all which were due to my own stupidity. I thought I better post this to save any raiders from doing the same thing I did. Now, VERY IMPORTANT, if your going to install an elec South Pacific or any elec winch make sure you spend the extra coin and get some good quality rope, the silver crap will slip. i first tried mine with silver rope spliced to the chain and it kept jamming. Get yourself some good quality NYLON, expect to pay about 100 dollars for 50M The other thing is to ensure you have the right rope for the winch, now the South Pacific 710 recommends 6mm short link. Not knowing much about chain I went to the hardware and purchased 6 ml chain, it didnt happen to be short link so I kept jamming the Gpsy on the winch. Anyhow now that she is set up correctly, I can tell you it is an absolute dream!!! Go the South Pacific! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thanks for the chat and the thumbs up on the south pacific anchor you brought Billy.......I intend adding an electric winch myself to my 15 1/2 foot Savage side console alloy boat ..... I had a friend who had an electric winch that was matched to suit the anchor size recommended for the boat.....The winch used to struggle a bit at times so I'll be definately upping the winch size.....I reckon you need to have extra head room for deep water and particularly to allow for windy days, swell, wake and currents etc when you need to use an anchor above the size of the anchor that the boat is rated for... Glen you mentioned that an auto electrician installed your winch and used 8mm 2 core electric wiring .....are these automotive cables and are they also tinned marine cables ? I also like the advice of Boomer, the quality of the fittings and the guage of all the wiring has to be taken into account as well...what is the optimum wiring guage as far as the electrics that run electric winches are concerned? Cheers jewgaffer Hi Jewgaffer, The winch was installed by me, I got the 8mm 2 core wiring from an auto electrician. Yes, it was tinned marine. Up here in Forster, been a regional area, alot of these stores stock both boat and auto cable. Many of the stores up here sell a bit of everything. As I mentioned in the original post, I did have some teething problems with the winch, all which were due to my own stupidity. I thought I better post this to save any raiders from doing the same thing I did. Now, VERY IMPORTANT, if your going to install an elec South Pacific or any elec winch make sure you spend the extra coin and get some good quality rope, the silver crap will slip. i first tried mine with silver rope spliced to the chain and it kept jamming. Get yourself some good quality NYLON, expect to pay about 100 dollars for 50M The other thing is to ensure you have the right rope for the winch, now the South Pacific 710 recommends 6mm short link. Not knowing much about chain I went to the hardware and purchased 6 ml chain, it didnt happen to be short link so I kept jamming the Gpsy on the winch. Anyhow now that she is set up correctly, I can tell you it is an absolute dream!!! Go the South Pacific! Glad the windlass is going well Billy. You are like me, wondered why we didn't get a windlass a long time ago. Nice to sit back and let the windlass do all the work. Now no more hard work when fishing. Great topic guys, lots of answers to almost all of my questions about winches, bar one. Whats the story with the rope to chain? IE is the rope simply eye spliced or is it a special knot? I am imagining that an eye splice would be a little thick to go through the winch at the joint point? Cheque book at the ready here, I've been saving for this item & got all confused about going all chain or chain / rope. Now that I've seen the setup I know it works, just need to know how? PS - lights idea is great & yeah, those hooters are cool. Glad you like the hooters on my boat. I can tell you they are very effective. Sounds like a manly ferry The rope is spliced to the chain. I thought it maybe too thick, but it works well. No problems at all. There is a hole at the base of the unit which is wider in diameter to accomodate the splice so the rope doesn't jam when entering or exiting the anchor well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Ok guys thanks for the info re rope to chain splice. I can splice (Very well if you don't mind Huey !) All lookin' good for a fit out in the next few weeks I hope. My decky will be most impressed until I tell him the time & energy saved in anchour retreival will now be spent polishing my new hooters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 when your deckie is finished polishing your boats hooters, he can polish mine since he has more time on his hands when not retrieving anchors anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szakacs Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Do you think one of these would work usefully on a Bar Crusher 530C . ??? The 530C already has a mounting plate for the Stressfree type winch. (Vertical plate on back wall of well) would it be feasible to use it in some way ????? I look at the Stressfree winch prices and flinch big time (Big $$$$ ), this looks like it could be a viable alternative. Any ideas / suggestions / warnings / praise would be gratefully accepted. Regards, Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olitay Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 Give Betty a call mate..... I looked at the STress Free also, and like you, I thought they were waaaay too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Betty@southpacific Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Do you think one of these would work usefully on a Bar Crusher 530C . ??? The 530C already has a mounting plate for the Stressfree type winch. (Vertical plate on back wall of well) would it be feasible to use it in some way ????? I look at the Stressfree winch prices and flinch big time (Big $$$$ ), this looks like it could be a viable alternative. Any ideas / suggestions / warnings / praise would be gratefully accepted. Regards, Garry Hi there Garry, The Breeze 710 series would be perfect for your 530C. Check your PM when you get a chance. Betty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szakacs Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 I was kinda hoping somebody has come up with a solution for mounting the winch on a Crusher that works, either utilising the existing mount plate on the rear wall or ??????? I don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't have too. Regards, Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Hi Billy, My boat is a 4.50M runabout and has a anchor winch. Pictures are below. Cost me $499.95. Model is a 710F, which is the freefall mode. When anchoring, you can lower the anchor bit by bit, or free fall. I have sent you a PM with the details of the company and where to get them from if you are interested. Looking at putting one on a quinnie 475 coast runner, did the cover plate over the anchor well come with the winch? i'm guessing you have had it custom made to suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Looking at putting one on a quinnie 475 coast runner, did the cover plate over the anchor well come with the winch? i'm guessing you have had it custom made to suit. Hi Gaz, I had the anchor well cover plate custom made by a metal fabricator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Hi Gaz, I had the anchor well cover plate custom made by a metal fabricator. Thanks chopper Looks great, is the winch attached only to the plate? hows it go for strenght? Whats the thickness of the plate guessing it's alloy. gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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