Kooks Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 This is a follow up of my post about catching my first whiting on surface lures. I'm currently using a Bassday Sugarpen 70mm. See pic. I'm keen to get everyone's opinions on various questions to shed some light on this Whiting craze. Walk the Dog vs Poppers? - What is better. Favourite Lure? (brand/size/colour) - Add a pic would be great. Best technique/tips to get whiting to strike? I've had problems with follows but not strikes. Fast vs slow retrieve? cheers Kooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjc123 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 The Sugapens are great! Along with Lucky Craft Sammy's and Strada Virals these are my 3 top surface lures for whiting. The Strada virals are pretty much a cheaper identical twin of the sugapens... Catch just as many fish though! So I'd say my favourite is a Strada Viral. I personally find that if they're following it and not taking it, you need to excite them a little. This can mean retrieving a little quicker or giving your lure more and faster action. If all this fails its either not your day or you could try small clear poppers or even plastics. Fast retrieve is better on the whiting and slower with the odd pause for bream. Mix it up as things change from day to day. Some days the whiting will hit it when your working it a million miles an hour, and some when its hardly moving! Definitely is a brilliant way to get a feed of whiting! Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooks Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Thanks Mulloway man, Those Lucky Craft Sammy's look great and the Virals really do look identical to the Sugarpens. I've also seen that you can replace the treble at the end of the lure with some stinger/assist hooks. So the fish don't need to get as close before they strike. There is a video but I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooks Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Found a clip...but not the one I watched. Edited January 29, 2013 by Kooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewhunter Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Bushy's stiffy popper 55mm in FRV colour. I'll out pop anyone on whiting most times with one of these. The colour makes all the difference in getting hits. The technique is a constant blooping retrieve. Keep it going at all times. If you pause the fish will lose interest. I fished side by side with Outdoordan recently, both using stiffy poppers. He didn't get a hit on a great looking colour while I got around 10. As soon as he tied on the FRV he got fish. Note. These work best with a bit of chop on the water. The sammy's & suger pens are great when it's glassed out but as soon as the wind is up go the popper. Remember that whiting hit surface lures because they think it is a fleeing prawn. Imitate that & you will catch fish. It's great fun & a style well worth mastering. Cheers, Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooks Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 I just came across the Jackson T-Pivot (35mm) lures. They look great but don't appear to come in bigger sizes. Has anyone used them on whiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Stiffy popper in FRV when theres some chop Sammy or Jaz zappa in clear with a little red on the front when there is a little bit of ruffle on the water Ive recently bought a couple of Virals(thanks Roberta)and have found the trebles and rings to be way too big for whiting and bream on the 70mm one so Ive changed them to the same size as on the 50mm viral much much better for hookups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargeRX8 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 What are some good sized trebles for bream and whiting? Ive got some lures which are nice little trebles but nothing to replace rusty hooks with. I'd rather get opinions here as the local tackle shop didn't have any small ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quochuy Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hey guys, I wanted to get some whiting on a walk-the-dog lure, so got myself a SugarPen 90m floating, but I'm starting to think I might have chosen a too big one. I was afraid the 70 would be too light for fishing the surf (big waves in Dee Why). But thinking again, maybe the 70 would have been enough. What do you guys think? Should I take the 90mm back and take the 70 instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdoweplaythis Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Sorry to hijack your thread, but where is a good place to use surface lures in general? I've tried poppers and stickbaits and Roseville and Narrabeen in areas where I know there are whiting and bream but can't for the life of me get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthmonger Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Any sand flat or shallow weed bed at the top of the tide is a good place to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quochuy Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I'm trying to get some on surface too. I decided yo try my big stickbait this morning without success. But is it me or the stick or the fish were elsewhere? I think I need to try bringing live worms and start fishing with them, then if I get hookups switch to lures. At least I will be sure there are fish in the area. For narrabeen I heard its good in front of the camping site near the beach. http://www.facebook.com/gonefishinginoz Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassboy888 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I just came across the Jackson T-Pivot (35mm) lures. They look great but don't appear to come in bigger sizes. Has anyone used them on whiting? Jackson_TPivot-500x500.jpg They name the bigger ones b-pivot, nice lure but trebles will need changing for bream and whiting, too heavy for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooks Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Quochuy I wouldn't be using any of these lures in the surf. They work best in the estuaries in about 1-2 ft of water. Then again in the right conditions it may work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quochuy Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Thanks mate http://www.facebook.com/gonefishinginoz Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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