trev Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Out of interest has anyone ever made up a fly rod? I have been given a blank composite developments. Markings say: 2102 6-7wt 100%graphite graphiteIII. I was hoping to build it up over Christmas sometime. I have built several rods before from 1pc 12ft beach to small spin sticks but never a fly rod. I will do a few net searches but was interested in other raiders experiences. Cheers Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jocool Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I suppose the most important thing is not to ruin the action. So you be using some light snake guides and no under bindings! Is it a multi-piece rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-Pete Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 (edited) Hi Trev, I have built a few fly rods from 3wt to 12 wt. There is a site that gives lots of recepies and use grade a thread single foot guides and the minimum of wraps to cover the foot of your guides and apply the thinest of coats of epoxy to the bindings. Of course buy the best guides that you can afford and cork is the only material to use for grips Good Luck they are fun to build and the first fish you catch on a fly rod you built is always a good thing Big Pete Edited August 19, 2005 by Big-Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 Joe, It's a 2 pc rod. Yep snake guides ? silk thread to bind. not sure about real seat? I have done a bit of wood turning in the past and I know my dad has a block of rosewood in his workshop I am in no hurry to get started I just want to do it right! Cheers Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jocool Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 As far as the fancy seat and fittings, Bombora started a thread a while ago about "Bling" for rods. Maybe try something different and go for a futuristic anadised alloy or satin finish look! Using one of those multi-coloured guides for the tip and stripper guide, and you could have something that looks real flash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluecod Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Out of interest has anyone ever made up a fly rod? I will do a few net searches but was interested in other raiders experiences. Cheers Trev 62963[/snapback] Trev, send Target [Adrian] a PM - he's as keen a rodbuilder you will come across and has made up his own fly rod - I'm pretty sure Alan Glover [SHEARWATER RODS] could also offer some good advice as he was always willing to spread his knowledge at the Sydney Rodbuilders Club meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 Thanks for all the ideas and tips guys. As I said not making it up til Christmas but want to do lots of research first. I will post pics of her as it done. Cheers Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Target Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 You dobbing me in there George ??? Trev, I have re-built an old fly rod for my brother in law, and built my own 9#. A mate of mine has also built rods from 3# to 8#. Theres nothing that hard in a fly rod, despite what some will make you think. It does get alittle more tricky with the snake guides being not as easy to start the binding on - just use thin strips (and I mean thin) of masking tape to set the guides up. For a 6-7 weight you might want to look at single foot wire guides, especially if you are really worried about dampening the action. Also, if you are looking at salt water use, I would suggest steering away from wood inserts in reel seats, try a full aluminium seat, and even look at a removable fighting butt if you want to get into the salmon. Allen Glover should be able to get you most of the gear you will need. Dont need to go for silk, just use NCP A - much easier and you wont get fading. If you want guide show through, use nylon A thread. As to guide spacing there are a few rules and theories as to spacings, but best to stick with the recomended recipies - cant realy go too far wrong. Available on most rod building sites. By the way, CD blanks are rated as some of the best fly blanks in the mid price market(ie excluding the real specialist stuff) If you dont want to build it up - I'll buy it off you What colour is the blank?? blue? Have fun Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 =Target,Aug 19 2005, 09:10 PM]You dobbing me in there George ??? For a 6-7 weight you might want to look at single foot wire guides Single foot I like that idea! Also, if you are looking at salt water use, I would suggest steering away from wood inserts in reel seats, try a full aluminium seat, and even look at a removable fighting butt if you want to get into the salmon. Good point about the wood will look into alloy. Dont need to go for silk, just use NCP A - much easier and you wont get fading. If you want guide show through, use nylon A thread. My only reason for silk was for weight reduction? By the way, CD blanks are rated as some of the best fly blanks in the mid price market(ie excluding the real specialist stuff) If you dont want to build it up - I'll buy it off you What colour is the blank?? blue? The blank is brown well I guess really copper in colour. I can't really sell it as it was a gift and I am looking forward to building it up but thanks for the offer. Have fun Have fun I sure will. and thanks for the advise Cheers Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Target Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Trev Silk is a specialised old style of thread, difficult to hold colour, but gives a very nice effect if used properly as it can turn translucent - you get the guide foot show through. A grade NCP is almost as light - but the weight is negligable. I'll contradict myself and say that the weight of the guides and binding wont really effect the rod that much (I did recomend single foot guides). If you add up the weight of wire guides, thread, and epoxy it is nothing compared to the weight of the blank and the line that you are throwing around - might feel better swishing a light rod around in the shop - but add the line weight and theres no difference. In saying that I have ceramic guides right through on my 9#, and I am sure you wont notice the difference - the trend in the states is actually for ceramic guides right along a fly rod now in the slightly larger rods (7# up) Guides singlefootfly.bmp removable butt fight_butt.bmp And try to get the best cork possible -cork that disintegrates over time shortens the life of a rod significantly Cheers Adrian BTW, only joking about buying the blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Trev, I have recently rebuilt an old split cane flyrod and received quite a deal of online assistance from a fellow I met via the internet, one Peter McKean from Launceston who makes them as a hobby in between working as a vet. Peter's rods are bought by some of the best fly fishermen in Tasmania, so he is not just an enthusiastic amateur. I will get in touch with him to see if he would be happy to offer you some advice. He uses A thread rather than silk, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiry Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 (edited) Trev I love this site (see below), you might find it helpful. They actually sell flyrod kits you can assemble yourself (not that you are wanting that i know). I find it good for information and I just love fly gear. I have built a couple of rods but not fly rods. My suggestion practice wrapping and applying epoxy to the outside of the bindings on a cheap old rod first and build your confidence in using new materials. www.shofftackle.com Edited August 24, 2005 by Weiry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen glover Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 (edited) All great advice and I cant add much more. In this class dont sweat over weight but metal or Ali "bling" is just unneccessary. a bit of threadwork weighs half as much and looks better. If you want to be functional and flash you can get super lightweight, full titanium seats from the states but top up the credit card before ordering one. Most of the Ali fly seats sold locally will do the job fine though. 7wt rods can take double footed snake guides which provide surety. Also the action and wts cast are large enough to over come any blank dampening the dbl ft guides may give. All up wt isnt an issue with dble ft guides as they use the same amount of wire as singles. Just make sure you size the guides so you have plenty of room for the line to travel freely. Also if you are fishing salt water Id reccomend a ringed tip like a fuji SiC or Freeway Zirc. Snake tips create a lot of friction on big runs. Lovely blank by all accounts. All the other CD's Ive built are excellent rods A P.S Hows the purglas going Cam. Edited September 4, 2005 by allen glover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexit Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Sorry to hijack your tread Trev, but I have playing with the idea of putting a fly rod together for a while and I wanted to put something to the good Mr Shearwater. Mate any chance of putting a kit with a sugested recipe together for me to build up? I am looking at a 10# 3 piece flyrod for the salt. PM if you like alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen glover Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Sorry to hijack your tread Trev, but I have playing with the idea of putting a fly rod together for a while and I wanted to put something to the good Mr Shearwater.Mate any chance of putting a kit with a sugested recipe together for me to build up? I am looking at a 10# 3 piece flyrod for the salt. PM if you like alex 65457[/snapback] Alex http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~rodsupply/ not listed but hastings fly blanks also available A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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