Guest Guest123456789 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) Hi raiders, I recently dropped this reel in the surf. I tried rinsing and cleaning this as best I could . I even added some grease and Inox The problem I have is when I wind it slowly its not smooth (feels like it's catching somewhere). What should I do? I'm thinking I'll either have to service this myself (pull everything apart) or pay someone on the Central Coast who knows what they're doing. I bought this from A fishing store in West Gosford, saw them today and they were no help. I've never services one myself nor do I know of a good place to get it services so any information here will help out a lot. Edited August 7, 2015 by Guest123456789 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted 2 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Hi mate, that reel is not that hard to service it. If you go to Alan Tani's site. He is the reel god in servicing and upgrades there is a complete breakdown of a stradic 8000 fj this should be the same. This shows you all steps to take down and putting back together in photos and instructions. On his site go to spinning reels page 2 and you will find the post showing 8000 fj. Servicing fishing reels is not hard , I service and repair all my reels from Tiagas ,TLDS , Twinpowers, Stradics, Calcuttas, Baitcasters etc. You can source all your parts directly from reel manufactures and it will save you money. A couple of tips, when you start the reel work . Go left to right as you pull the parts apart on paper and it will show you how the order to put it back together. If you have to many problems just pm me and I will help. Ps . At present I am rebuilding a Baitrunner LC and just finished a Baitrunner 4000 d . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted 2 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Hi mate, may have given you bum steer on that had a better look at the post might not be the best reel to start with. It is not a complete break down . Pm and I might be able to help depending on time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Shimano charge $20 for a service, not including the cost of replacement parts, so if you can do without your reel for a week I would send it to them to maintain your warranty.If that's not ideal I'll service the reel for the same price and have it done in a day, providing I don't have to order replacement parts from Shimano.I've been servicing my own reels for twenty years.I'm located near Swansea, just up the coast from Gosford.Send me a private message if you're interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latindog Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Nothing better than having a quiet time cleaning your reels, nothing mayor if u can put the parts back in, by the sounds of it the problem is on the top and not the bottom end, have a go Edited August 10, 2015 by latindog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Nothing better than having a quiet time cleaning your reels I don't know what I like better, fishing or servicing reels. A better version of the schematic. http://dunphysports.com/forms/warranty/schematic/ST5000FJ.pdf I can't stand that video for a number of reasons, but mainly due to what he says about the anti-reverse clutch. As I said when I commented on that video last year, the anti-reverse clutch is lubricated by an oil impregnated felt washer and it should only be serviced if water and/or particulates have penetrated it. Edited August 10, 2015 by PM79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latindog Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Good to know thanks for the advise, i guess servicing the clutch will be only if one has to do it as you explained it, I opened my reel yesterday and took a good look at the clutch and there was no way I was going to mingle with it unless I knew what I was doing, the rest of that video just shows it is not that hard to have a go and doing it yourself , if there are any other mislead on that video let us know please Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted 2 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Mate, if you ever have a problem with a reel be it conventional or spin reel . Check alan tani's site there is hundreds break up of reels most brands it is a main hob for guys who repair or service reels around the world and a heap of pros that will help.They post a lot of information regarding upgrades , materials, tools, lubricants etc. Alan is a pleasure to deal with as he sends reel bearing grease packers he designed all around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Alan's website is a wealth of information, for those with and without experience servicing reels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest123456789 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Guys thanks so much for the awesome advice. I'll check out Alan Tanis site and also do some other research. I'll pull it apart and track all the parts so I can put it back together again. The nuclear option will be to send it back to shimano for a service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest123456789 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Also do you have Ann recommendations on tools/parts I'll need to service this feel? Currently what I have is inox, Phillips head (large and small), reel grease bought from a tackle store, plyers, shifting spanner, wrenchs, rags. The guy from the tackle store advised me to get some turpentine to clean the drag soft washers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) I use Diggers Wax & Grease Remover, and you'll want to use it to clean everything, not just the felt washers.As for tools, you'll need a small paintbrush for applying grease and another to aid in cleaning parts.This guide of Slinky's may be helpful.http://www.fishraider.com.au/Invision/index.php?showtopic=46630The only issue you may have is with the bearings.They need to be opened, cleaned and oiled, but they can be annoying to open even with the appropriate tools.I would ring Shimano and replace them all.Their part numbers can be found on the schematics I posted in my above post. Edited August 11, 2015 by PM79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted 2 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Mate, good to hear you are having a go. The following list of greases and cleaners that can be used aerosol can of carbie cleaner, white methylated spirits clean drag washers . Lubricants I am presently using after research grease Inox MX8 , Yamalube Grease , bigger reels like TIAGRAS, TLDS, ACCURATE 'S etc. Baitcast reels and also Spinning reels I use shimano permalube , you can also use the above mentiond MX8 and Yamalube but the viscosity is a bit higher.For Drag washers I use as follows shimano TBMO , ACE 2 and CALS drag grease. I cut all my own Drag washers from carbontex to upgrade reels as I replace the felt ones. Gears I use the same MX8 and Yama or ACE2 as it can also be used as for gears multi purpose like CALS. All of these lubricants are not needed just pick a few as it can start getting expensive . As mentioned I have a lot as I do rebuilds and upgrades to a lot of reels. I also use INOX PLUS, INOX MX3 and LANOX to keep this reels in top condition and corrosion free as possible. I will let you pick up most of the tools required from Alani Tani's site as theis a good place to start .Being new to your new hobby I will give some pointers I remember when I first started and a few pit falls . Have a little camera handy can be really handy especially if you have to box all parts for later to complete as a newbie after a few you get a sense of part assembly without even with the schematics. A small set of tweezers are also handy , magnifying glasses for very small parts. The most important thing don't be overwhelmed as there is a lot information these days on the internet on most reels. Most suppliers are good to source parts and this can save you a lot of money . I am retired at 43 and all I do now is play with reels and Cruz the net unfortunately I have a medical condition or would have said send it to me and I would have done it for free except parts keeps me busy . Have a go if you have to many problems with it give me a pm . As I was told on Monday I will have to stay on the lounge at least a few months so I now have a lot of time coming free now. But have a shot as it is a lot of fun and also I get the satisfaction and also know the reels is in top condition. You get a lot reels with not enough lubricants in brand new boxes I would hate to mention some of these Brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest123456789 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Thanks converted and PM. Lots of information to consider. I'll have a crack this weekend and let you know how I went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest123456789 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Guys I'm almost certain the problem is the bearings. I'm just going to send it back to shimano. I don't have the time to learn this, I'd rather be out fishing or spending time with the family. Here is the form: http://www.shimanofish.com.au/content/dam/shimanoweb/fish/au/en/forms/Shimano_reel_repair_form.pdf I will service my reel though using the information,action provided. I also won't be dropping it in the surf again anytime soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Guys I'm almost certain the problem is the bearings. It doesn't take much to cause issues with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest123456789 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I just got the reel back from shimano. It was sand/salt in the bearings they replaced them. What they didn't do was clear the salt/sand out of the anti reverse switch on the bottom. I tried winding the reel backwards and the salt/sand has gone straight back into the bearings! Also they didn't clear the sand out of the bail arm so that is crunching as well. They didn't service my reel either. They charged me $60. I've sent It back with a note, hopefully it was just a human error mistake (which happens) and it comes back good as new. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM79 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) That's terrible of them, just sloppy work.I hope they don't charge you the second time. Edited August 27, 2015 by PM79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest123456789 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Great news! Shimano sent me back my reel with all the sand removed and fully serviced at no cost! They also rang me up to explain what happened. The form you complete lists details about your reel. I checked just one box which listed problems with the bearings and Wrote extensive notes about the problems with winding. It seems like the notes weren't fully understood. I assumed they would 'bench test' the reel and pick up any other problems with the reel and fix them too. They fully serviced my reel (including fixing the anti reverse) and didn't charge me. It's now running just like a song! Guess what brand of reel will be my next purchase? Very happy shimano customer right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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