Mutt Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I know there are a few older posts about this but just wanted to confirm. I have some old flares to dispose of (I know I could always take them to a soccer game! [emoji3]) I'm sure I read I can drop them off at the nearest police station, is this correct? Or do I have to take them to the Roads and Maritime at Engadine? Cheers! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaClH2OK9 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'd leave them on the boat as spares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc6264 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I just took mine to Port Kembla. Apparently you can only dispose of them at certain RMS centres. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batfishing Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'd leave them on the boat as spares.Yep, but there does come the point, where you need to dispose of some!I keep the in date set, and the latest expired set on the boat. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaClH2OK9 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Fair point Ian. It's not a do it forever plan. In the UK we used to let them of on bonfire night. Not a tradition followed here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 Now, that would be fun.. NaCIH20K9! Thanks for all the help! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratchie Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Fair point Ian. It's not a do it forever plan. In the UK we used to let them of on bonfire night. Not a tradition followed here Not a tradition anymore! The fun police took that one away a while ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locodave Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Here you go: http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/safety-rules/safety-equipment/flare-disposal.html Edited August 17, 2015 by locodave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameldownunder Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'd leave them on the boat as spares. It says somewhere that it is an offence to have expired flares on the boat. I can imagine that if expiry is not too much in the past the flares are still good, but when they are a few years old, they might malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaClH2OK9 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Can you quote where it says? I'm happy to be corrected but have only ever read that you must have an in date set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossfire63 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Give them to your nearest paint Ball place. They'll make good use of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameldownunder Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Can you quote where it says? I'm happy to be corrected but have only ever read that you must have an in date set. http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/safety-rules/safety-equipment/flare-disposal.html "Most flares have a use-by date of three years and they must be replaced before the expiry date. Penalties apply." I might have misread this, as in "Penalties applies if you have expired flares" instead of "Penalties applies if your ( the only one aboard ) flares are expired" This might be clearer http://dpti.sa.gov.au/ondeck/news/?a=126163 "After the expiry date on a flare is past they are an unauthorised explosive. Once expired the flares must be handed in to a police station, where they will be collected" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaClH2OK9 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 It's great that you've referenced this mate. And not being pedantic. But it's a SA website so may not be applicable in NSW. that said it does make sense. I'll do some research tonight too when I get off the hamster wheel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaClH2OK9 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Ok. So I called maritime and asked. What a stupid conversation. This is slightly cut down. Q, is it illegal to carry expired flares on a boat ( I also have legal set) A, no I don't think we have a legislation for that but let me ask the boating officer. A, boating officer says no legislation so as long as they are not over 12 months out ok. Q, why 12 months? Where is it documented? A, I don't believe it is Q, so if it is not documented as legislation. It's not legislation and there is no penalty A, that would be down to maritime police to decide if they wanted to prosecute you. Q, prosecute me for what? I have not breached and legislation A, that would be down to maritime police to decide if they wanted to prosecute you. The conversation sort of run out of steam there. Sheeesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big Neil Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Thanks for sharing that Salty. Alas it further reinforces my belief that these "authority figures" are wishy washy in their decision making. They used to be indecisive, now they're not so sure. I have some very old flares but don't know where to take them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batfishing Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Ok. So I called maritime and asked. What a stupid conversation. This is slightly cut down. Q, is it illegal to carry expired flares on a boat ( I also have legal set) A, no I don't think we have a legislation for that but let me ask the boating officer. A, boating officer says no legislation so as long as they are not over 12 months out ok. Q, why 12 months? Where is it documented? A, I don't believe it is Q, so if it is not documented as legislation. It's not legislation and there is no penalty A, that would be down to maritime police to decide if they wanted to prosecute you. Q, prosecute me for what? I have not breached and legislation A, that would be down to maritime police to decide if they wanted to prosecute you. The conversation sort of run out of steam there. Sheeesh Remind me one day to tell you conversations I have had when getting equipment tested to be approved.... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locodave Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I know on the qld forums they stated its illegal to carry expired flares. But looks like it is a grey area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameldownunder Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 It's great that you've referenced this mate. And not being pedantic. But it's a SA website so may not be applicable in NSW. In other threads I came across, some said that NSW "reccomends" keeping some "spare" old one in the boat. Some of the threads were 8 years stale. And nothing found in the boating brochure for 2015. I'll keep only 2 sets, the one not expired and the one that just expired. Older one's will be disposed as recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Thanks for all your help, looks like a few other issues with flares as well! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinfisher 4.9 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Oh, isn't it just so typical - the people charged with enforcing the law (and could prosecute us) do not understand the actual legislation. From my experience, of over 40 years of boating, flares do not become more dangerous or volatile or unstable with age, in fact it is the reverse. They deteriorate and may not be effective. So carry a set of in-date flares and your previous pack as a back-up. They will not suddenly explode and may be the ones that get you rescued. Edited September 2, 2015 by Twinfisher 4.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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