Guest Guest123456789 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Hi Raiders, Lately I've been targeting kings from the rocks (caught my first rat last night! Woohoo). I've been using lures on braided line. I use anywhere between 3 to 5 metres fluro as connected using an FG knot. Given I have this much fluro, can I get away with a short distance to the swivel? I'm using both a crane swivel and brass barrel swivel and the distance to the lure is only 15cm. It's easier to cast long distances this way but I'm worried the fish will see the swivels and not bite. Thanks in advance for your help. Edited December 13, 2015 by Guest123456789 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrone07 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 When spinning the rocks I personally don't use a swivel I'll just connect my lures with a basic loop knot, very simple to tie and has a similar effect in regards to what a swivel does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfisherman Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I guess it's not s bad thing to use a swivel. If I do I connect it directly to the split ring, other wise I don't really use one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4myson Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Congrats on your first King !! I've always heard from fishos that the length of your leader to swivel should be the same length as the fish your targeting ...(Think BIG , 1 meter long leader for that 1 meter KING !!! ...LOL...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest123456789 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the input guys. I use a rapala loop knot to connect the lure. Can I just connect this straight to a crane swivel (no leader)? Tyrone if you spin braid without a swivel you will get line twist sure as houses. I'd be too busy fixing line to focus on catchimg all those amazing kingfish from Avoca rocks. Edited December 13, 2015 by Guest123456789 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratchie Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I've always been of the belief that your leader should be one and half times the length of your rod. Your trace varies depending on your method, bait, live baiting etc. If your throwing lures, I always tie it straight though to the leader. Cheers scratchie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrone07 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I usually use fins braid straight through to a fluoro leader and throw everything from metals, plastics, stick baits and poppers and have never had an issue with line twist etc. Been a few good kings being caught down there, have had a few we couldn't stop even on 80lb leader should only get better from here on in ince the warm current arrvies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashdcrab Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Just run the swivel at the lure, connected with a split ring. The less knots the better in all cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krispy ! Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 No swivel for me, it would affect the action of your lure and the smallest doubt can stop a king from biting, just tie fluro straight onto the hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock&Beach Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Yes I agree with the other guys. I used to use a locking clip swivel to make it easier to change lures. I then changed to tieing direct I would have to say it works better. Still playing with the rapala knot to see if that adds better action. Concerned with abrasion on the loop though. In the past I have used about a meter of flouro as i did not want to run the knot through the runners as i had alot of air knots and with this still had good hookups. Now that I have learned to tie the FG knot recently I will try to see how this goes. I find the more action you can put on the lure the better slow, fast, stop, stop, quick, jerk, jerk, rod high, rod low. Good luck Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest123456789 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Thanks guys. I used a rapala knot, no trace straight to crane swivel this arvo. Worked great for me, the action of the lure was good, the fish still took it and no line twist. Best of all swapping lures was easy, just unsnap the crane and connect the new lure. Second best of all, I could toss the thing a country mile. Edited December 13, 2015 by Guest123456789 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Knot Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 If you are using a spinning reel then tie the flourocarbon leader (say 2 meters) direct to the braid &dispense with all the swivels. Cheers Blood Knot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashdcrab Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The loop knots are good on stickbait type lures , you don't want them spinning around on a swivel. But if you are talking about metal slugs being retrieved at high speed, you absolutely want a swivel so that you get a flashing effect as it spins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest123456789 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Thanks guys based on your advice I've decided to ditch the rapala knot. Crane swivel straight to the lure. Where I fish there is a heap of waves, wind and current, trust me when I say you get line twist sure as houses without a swivel when spinning. Let's see how we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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