PaddyT Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 AND-news on the Stop The Lockout FB page today-it appears Marine Parks are back on the agenda-so as i said before our opponents WILL NEVER STOP-sitting back and being non political about your choice of lifestyle/recreation/access to nature (thats the real problem we face) is not really an option any more-sign every petition , write to your member (just in the final stages of having a meeting with mine), STOP STICKING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND-once hunting is gone, fishing will go, meat eating next etc etc etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzybass Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 This is absolutely "the wedge". I have been waiting for this for years and the only thing that surprises me is that it is mixed up with all the other animal welfare issues. It is such a broad brush that my greatest fear is that rec & especially sportsfishing will be "sacrificed" to please the animal liberationists so that the other farming stuff will be left alone. /as PaddyT said, don't expect the ALP to help us anglers. DO NOT BE COMPLACENT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyT Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 19 hours ago, Ozzybass said: This is absolutely "the wedge". I have been waiting for this for years and the only thing that surprises me is that it is mixed up with all the other animal welfare issues. It is such a broad brush that my greatest fear is that rec & especially sportsfishing will be "sacrificed" to please the animal liberationists so that the other farming stuff will be left alone. /as PaddyT said, don't expect the ALP to help us anglers. DO NOT BE COMPLACENT!!! Unfortunately its not just the ALP-the LNP have been complicit in this latest legislation-the majors cannot be trusted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foghorn Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 dID I READ THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT BANNING LIVE BAITS FOR FISHING? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 They are looking to ban any activity that causes an animal/fish physical or psychological distress. So hooking a fish, tagging a fish, using a fish as live bait, putting a fish into a livewell for release later and pretty well any other fishing related activity could be banned. Now at the moment there is an allowance that fishing is excluded, but that won't last long. They will also prevent farmers ear tagging their stock, branding them, desexing them, transporting them, sending them to slaughter or anything else really as it can cause the animals psychological harm. Basically we are all supposed to turn vegan is the final aim of the proposed legislation. Act or we will all be in trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, motiondave said: https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/la/Pages/ePetition-details.aspx?q=qBOar3qjYoueNu/qGMaIEQ== Signed. The SSAA are also urging members to do the same. Edited September 16, 2021 by kingie chaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savit Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 11:40 AM, dirvin21 said: I had a read, it actually seems like a reasonable reform, fishing and fishing with live bait is still mentioned as allowed in section 8 Yes, I have read the same that live bait will be still permitted, and was kind of surprised that people keep stating opposite. As for reasonability of the proposal - in wrong hands we will all become fly fishers at best, or vegans at worst. On the other hand, situations like when teens cut and use piece of alive fish (without dispatching it first) for bait seem disturbing to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirvin21 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 6 hours ago, savit said: On the other hand, situations like when teens cut and use piece of alive fish (without dispatching it first) for bait seem disturbing to me. Couldn't agree more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyT Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 I think both you guys are missing the point of why this legislation is dangerous-it has been written in such a way that live baiting is exempt but can be included with the swipe of a pen-it doesnt need to be put in front of parliament again after its in place. You raise a point about cutting into a live fish-how is that more "barbaric" than hooking up a livebait-actually how is more barbaric that what already happens in nature-things like psychological damage is going to be included in the new act-how is that going to be measured. Both you guys are catch and release exponents-other non fishos might view that as torturing a fish for your own amusement, in fact i question catch and release fishing myself and these days find myself doing less and less of it-i catch a feed and then i go home (and i aint no greenie-i hunt my own meat). SO-before thinking this is an over reaction -have a look at what could come down the pipeline if this legislation gets passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD351 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 From what I heard on the radio today from the SFFP head honcho is that the petition already has over 5k signatures but needs 20k to get it into parliament which they reckon they will get easily . Apparently the Nats are a little dismayed as to why Marshal has sided with the animal liberation mob as the bill he is trying to get passed will have massive implications for the cattle and sheep industry and just about every other type of rural producer and they mostly vote for the Nats . Wouldn’t be surprised if he gets punted very soon 🤞🤞🤞. So don’t feel disheartened as we have a few allies on this - the fishing community is not the only faction trying to drive this stupid legislation into the ground . P.S Thanks for the link Dave ! I wouldn’t have known about it otherwise ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) Geez, I wonder how animals will be slaughtered now for halal or Kosher food if this bill passes?? Oh yeh, religion will be a genuine reason for allowing live animals to have their throats cut while alive to be bled out We just need to turn fishing & hunting into a religion & then all will be acceptable. Some may say that fishing is a religion....................................... as we do it religiously 😜 Edited September 18, 2021 by kingie chaser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD351 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Always thought fishing was a religion 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) On 9/18/2021 at 10:58 PM, XD351 said: Always thought fishing was a religion 😀 Yep, & the salt & briny is our church 😁 Or if your a freshy as well then that's your place of worship to 🙂 Edited September 19, 2021 by kingie chaser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Starting to hear of peoples Youtube channels being closed that show fishing under YouTubes new policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savit Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, JonD said: Starting to hear of peoples Youtube channels being closed that show fishing under YouTubes new policies. Any well known fishing channels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 12 hours ago, savit said: Any well known fishing channels? I believe some of the UK well known ones have been taken down. Im not sure what ones they are exactly, just going of what Im hearing from my old fishing buddies over there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savit Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 9:08 AM, JonD said: I believe some of the UK well known ones have been taken down. Im not sure what ones they are exactly, just going of what Im hearing from my old fishing buddies over there. Looks like not just in UK now. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-22/albany-fisherman-cops-temporary-youtube-ban/100482240 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Bump Anyone know where this legislation is at now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsswordfisherman Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Enough has been said here. Please ensure when discussing members of parliament or government that it remains respectful particularly toward females. There are plenty of other forums where you can discuss this stuff in any way you wish. mrsswordfisherman (Community Manager) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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