Help indentifying boat.

[Damon7]

Hi to everyone, hoping to receive some info regarding this boat, owner has said it was originally a pongrass half cabin, but doesn't know anymore then that, any info would be appreciated, thank you.

[noelm]

It does look a bit Pongrass like, but seeing as it’s been cut to bits, it’s a guessing game. It might be the angle, but the motor looks way too low, maybe an XL shaft on a L transom?

[Damon7]

Thank you Noel, I couldn't find anything on 5.8m (19ft) pongrass boats, were they any good?. And the motor might be the angle, I believe it is a XL motor on a XL transom. I'll ad some more photos.

[Damon7]

[Fab1]

My question is does it even matter what it was when it is no longer what it was? Enjoy it for what it is and  get out there.

Nice boat.

Edited July 14, 2023 by Fab1

[Damon7]

Yes, I understand it has definitely been changed, I was more wanting to know to get an idea whether is was a good hull, and even just to know what hull it actually is. 

[noelm]

Pongrass were made for years, closed, reopened, changed names at one time (to Freeline) not too sure how old that one would be. There was a cabin model about 18-19’ at one time. That one has been pretty well cut to bits, in a very “backyard” way. Pongrass were OK boats, reasonably well made, not exactly top of the line, but OK.

[Damon7]

Ok thank you Noel, it is supposed to be a 1978 originally.

[Fab1]

20 minutes ago, noelm said:

Pongrass were made for years, closed, reopened, changed names at one time (to Freeline) not too sure how old that one would be. There was a cabin model about 18-19’ at one time. That one has been pretty well cut to bits, in a very “backyard” way. Pongrass were OK boats, reasonably well made, not exactly top of the line, but OK.

My brother in-law a way better boatie than me had a pongrass in the 80’s that use to get him out there and back safely then.Good info you provided Damon 7 mate.

[frankS]

Here is a Pongrass 5.8 from an earlier thread.

Think you may have to re-thing what your boat is.

Could possibly still be a pongrass. How are you measuring the boat length. Get a tape and run from tip of bow through to top of transom.

Do not measure from tip of bow around gunnel to transom.

Frank

[noelm]

That’s a much later model, might even be one of Freeman’s boats (Freeline) he bought the brand and built much more modern boats. Fished with a mate out of one of those models for years, pretty good boat.

[Damon7]

I had found those photos in my search, and yes I had noticed it was different, but unless I remember wrong, it was also listed as a 1978. Thank you 

[noelm]

Most of the older Pongrass had a very square look and a small (about 50X50mm) keel running almost the full length of the bottom, not many other builders had a “keel” as such, and I think I can see what appears to be similar in one picture.