thanks for the replies guys,
there is a real assortment of carp in the river, from what i can see, koi, and common euros, obviously there're so cross bred that you wouldnt get one with pure strains on either sides if you were to do a dna test.
from judging by the bodies of some specimines, there is some nasty inbreeding going on there as well.
i will try to burley up with pieces of bread, but guys, when you mean bread, do you mean a chunk of bread on the hook, or just the white section, rolled up and compressed into a dough like ball and then onto the hook.
some of these carp are seriously big.
we are talking average size 40-60cm head to tail, i would not imagine the weight of these as they are fat suckers and from watching the excitement in spawning, they would put up a big fight!!!