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1 hour ago, Saboo said:
Mate if you will have access to the hire car forget Sydney and head straight to Jervis Bay. A google search on LBG down that way will have you sorted out fairly quickly.
Good suggestion. Just make sure that Beecroft Weapons Range is open for fishos on the day. As it could be 400km nasty surprise. I had it once.
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I tried everything and sticked to using 95 in my cars and 91(no ethanol) in rentals for most km/$ value.
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Mate, if you are in Sydney for only a few days and would prefer not to start from scratch - there is a well-known rock fishing guide/tutor on northern beaches with very good reputation in Sydney. Though I think he is more into baits rather than lures. Google if interested.
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Still closed. Muddy water and lots of rays spooking the fish. Got a 1.5m one on weekend. Was fun on a light gear.
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I think they are the same.
http://www.fishraider.com.au/Invision/index.php?showtopic=29500
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We could cremate them afterwards. Perhaps have a ceremony and usher thier spirits into the next life
And then they will become jewfish in their next life ..
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How about iki-jime (sharp spike) above eyes instead of priest ?
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It's not a conspiracy, I learnt about planned obsolescence at uni. You have to remember on of the biggest audiences are tackle shops, and they hate products that last forever. Next time you're at a tackle shop tell the guy you're thinking of buying an Alvey reel and watch how fast he steers you towards a spinning reel.
Thank you for adding another word to my marketing vocabulary
My observations - they hate more the products which you bring for warranty repairs - particularly the smaller businesses. If the salesman convince me to buy a e.g. 2000 size spin reel - I am potential buyer for braids, HB and SP lures, Egi lures, jigheads, slow/micro jigs, several rods for different purposes with the same reel etc...never ending shopping list, which I would unlikely consider by buying Alvey
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This is where you get the weight savings, no? [emoji5]Good reel for the money. Just note though that the new model has 1+1 bearings. ie 1 for the shaft and one for the line roller. The old model had 4! They may not be such good value anymore.
Matt
I think the new Stradic has also lost 1 bearing in 2016.
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Agree. Another example where in order to solve a problem, the problem has to be created. Hopefully not again about mulloway and blackfish other names. Otherwise Reds and Greens might feel discriminated too.Political correctness gone mad ! Its actually quite sad that topics like this even get given a platform
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Just on you tangles, it could be that you haven't rigged your bait properly causing it to spin around and tangle.
Also are you using mono or fluro leader, I find fluoro to be more stiff and thus cause less tangles.
The other possible cause for the tangles is the drag being set too light when retrieving your line. With a big heavy sinker, you might be winding against the drag when retrieving the rig. You can tell by looking st your spool as you wind in, if its moving you need to tighten it up before winding back in:
Thank you Guys.
Currently I am using 50lb mono leader with 2 snelled hooks (4/0 and 6/0). 4/0 was easily straightened recently by 1m port jackson. I want to make several 2 hook rigs with 50 or 60 lb stiffer fluoro leader and hooks in 8/0 - 10/0 range. Top - circle hook and bottom - normal hook and see how it goes. A challenge for me is good reliable knots for thick leader.
I am using 4 oz sinker, not sure if I should 6 oz one.
The sinker/bait tangles were most likely due to low tension on the line as occasional strong wave kicked large bait and pushed extra line from the reel set on light drag . I did not have these issues common in the past as I fished same rig with stronger tension. However I had to test light tension/drag as I want to be able to leave safely 14ft rod in rod holder at night while I am catching fresh bait. So probably I will set a stronger drag next time and see how it goes.
Ideally, once issue with tangles resolved - I want to add a short line with surf popper or smaller hook for small pests.
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As for what type of rod this woud apply to, in more whippy rods the parabolic action will be more apparent, however it is also what those super light graphite bream sticks use, as they bend all the way (although the bend is less apparent). This is also why you shouldn't hold those light rods too far above the grips, as doing so stops the weight being evenly distrubuted, often leaking to breakage. On the other hand, if you take a look at some fibreglass rods (especially 2 piece ones), you may notice that the tip section can bend almost 360 degrees, while the base has little to no movement. This is an example of non-parabolic action.
I hope this clears some things up and explains what Jon and luderick angler have already posted. Tight lines and happy fishing!
Thank you Ivo for the explanation.
Why would be parabolic action required in those mentioned super light graphite bream sticks - to avoid rod damage under load? to cast further the lightest lures? anything else?
I prefer stiffer/faster light rods as it is easier to set the hook and work the lures.
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Yeah just apply increasing pressure and the hook will roll into the corner of the mouth
When you first start using circles, it is really hard to resist the temptation to stike.
I haven't used the mustard demon hooks but I assume they would do the same job.
I usually fish with my brother so what we do is that one of us uses a gang hooks and pillies to target salmon/tailor (to use as bait) and the other one uses 2 hook smelled rig with a slab bait (preferably tailor or salmon that we caught on the beach)
I always hold the rod, so I can feel any bites and am aware with what is happening with my line.
You bring up a good point with baitrunner style reels and circle hooks.
I use Penn spinfisher SSM which is a normal spin reel.
So I couldn't say if you could use circles with a bait runner
Hopefully another raider can help you out there.
Also on a side note try to fish a deep gutter if you are targeting jews.
Hope that helps
Thank you, sam bros.
Just finished reading 7-page 'jewfish tactics' on the forum to avoid asking already answered questions. Many men - many minds. The range of suggestions/used techniques is really wide: Rods - from 1kg to 15 kg. Mainline - from 3lb to 50 lb. Hooks - from 1/0 to 10/0. Fish with locked drag / let it run. Tide matters / tide does not matter. Bait size matters / bait size does not matter. Fish deeper / Fish shallows. Use fresh bait / Use soft bait.
I went fishing again last weekend at night. Analysed the shoreline and identified the potential gutter. When I came closer - wave action and presence of 2 fishos confirmed my thoughts. This time I was fishing with light drag setting (hoping for the fish run again) - a new problem appeared - tangles near sinker/bait/leader have increased, so I have to change somehow the rig or to fish with tighter drag next time. Next time I will try again circle hooks (No strike 'itching' for me whether it is in hand or rod holder, however have not fished with circles for a while).
I did not catch anything - the other 2 fishos very likely finished with the same results as I saw them only changing the baits.
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Thank you, recurve.I have only cast Micro Jigs and it gets a decent distance.
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New Sienna FE was released earlier this year. Some places may be still cleaning old stock at very attractive prices - which can give you even more value for money.Thanks everyone for the info,I will buy one of these reels sounds like good value [emoji3]
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Hi Savit
Just thought I'd share my opinions
Judging from your rig your targeting jewfish and/or sharks. I've been targeting jews in the surf for a several years.
What jews do, is that they grab onto the bait and if they feel resistance then they will spit it out. If you have your drag set tightly and strike on the first tug, then you will just pull the bait (and hooks) out of the mouth.
You always have to give time for the fish to take in the bait. My suggestion is back off your drag to just enough so that surf/current doesn't take any line.
Let the fish run with the bait for 5-10 secs and then tighten up the drag and strike.
Also using circles will help with hook ups. I always use 2 snelled 7/0 gamakatsu circle hooks with my slab baits.
Again the same principle applies, have your drag relatively loose and once the fish starts running, wait a couple seconds and tighten up the drag and apply pressure.
Hope that helps,
Sam
Sam, thank you very much for the suggestions and explanation.
I would say - I am more interested in Jews , however I do not mind fighting something else heavy at the moment as a by catch (I need some change after a few years of chasing smaller bread and butter species).
A few questions please:
So, when using circles - you just tighten drag to apply pressure and the fish will self-hook up? Or, do you still strike with Gamakatsu Circles?
I have a collection of Mustad Demon Circles , will they do the job?
Do you use paternoster or different rig?
Will baitrunner such as 6500B make the life easier here? Or quick switching to the main drag may pull the circles out the fish mouth?
Thanks
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No worries.
With a slab of bait, I'd strike when you feel the fish tug at your line.
I prefer braid over mono too for the reasons you mentioned plus a few others. I use a 12 foot rod, 10pbs braid mainline connected to swivel, then a 2 metre 15lbs fluro paternoster rig with a crane swivel connecting a size 3 star sinker. Top loop is a small red and white halco popper. Bottom loop a salted whole pilchard on a gang hook.
How shallow is the gutter you're fishing? Personally I like deep gutters where the shore is more than 20 degrees sloping.
Flatheadluke, Thank you again for the suggestions and your rig explanations. I understand that with that long 2m leader and deep gutter you can raise the bait above the bottom. I used a surf popper on light leader and it tangled each time with main leader if the bait was in the water for a while, so I just removed surf popper until I find a better solution.What gang hook size do you use?
I fish 95% time at night however I am not good at reading beaches for gutters at night as I had a looong break with surf/beach bait fishing. If I locate a deeper hole at night, I will stick to it.
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I've double checked. The rod is the Baitrunner, but 2-4kg. I'd really like to avoid buying a new rod for now, as I need:
- end tackle
- SPs and HBs
- Comfortable backpack
- proper 50 upf clothing. Man I got so sunburnt last weekend, even with putting spf 50+ sunscreen on... Damn you Australian sun!
- landing net
- Baitrunner usually means special Shimano reels with 2x drags. 2-4 kg rating rod looks ok. You don't have to buy rod now . Try flicking plastic with your existing rod and see if you need another rod.
- What do you mean by 'end tackle' - leaders, swivels, jigheads?
- SP-HBs. General suggestions were provided. If you want more value - check sale section on websites and clearance tackle boxes in the shops. There is nothing wrong with them unless you are buying 10 y.o soft plastic or Gulp. A pack of double hooks will convert any vibe or blade into more snag-proof fishing weapon.
- Comfortable backpack. I prefer smaller shoulder bag which fits everything that I need for lure fishing session. Some people are using waist bag. I rarely use backpack for lure fishing - it's not comfortable to take off the pack pack each time to change lure while keeping the rod in the other hand. And it may be very hot in the summer in it.
- proper 50 upf clothing. I prefer Columbia UV long sleeve fishing shirts and similar quick drying pants , so I can also wade if I want. If you are sensitive to the sun - consider UV gloves and UV neck protection, good polarising sunglasses. Also it's good to have a breathable rain jacket if the weather changes. This list never ends...
-landing net. Usually it is used when fishing with very light leaders e.g. 2lb or the dead lift of heavy fish might be required (e.g. rocks). I have 2 - I rarely use them.
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I think the original file size is too small, when I do that it becomes very pixilated. I'll give it a shot on the laptop when I'm home though
Cheers
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NP. Try at home. I tried in Tapatalk as well and it was ok for me. Otherwise PM me and I will sent the image to you.
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It's too small to read Savit...for me anyway..
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Should be interesting. Where, when and how much?
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That's great you have a system you like. Doesn't mean it better than Savits, he has a system, likes it and shared how it works. There's no right or wrong way here.
I totally agree here.
Guys, use what works for you and enjoy it.
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A few suggestions here and there. Other forum members may agree or disagree.
Rod. A word 'bait' and a wide range of rod rating 2-6kg likely means slow/medium action of your rod which is more suitable for fishing with baits rather than lures. I understand that rod still to be confirmed. I would suggest to get a light 7' 2-4 kg rod.
Reel. Reels 2000 and 2500 reels are very close in size. Existing 2500 should do the job. My own preference is using one reel with several spare spools filled with different lines/braides rating to suit the situation. it is very convenient if you want to be mobile and have a choice during the fishing session.
Lures.
SP. Do not buy the whole store stock of SP. Buy a few different and see how it works in your area. Gulp does not last long as it is not actually a plastic. Try to get Squidgies with free scent bottle and see if the scent works for you.
HB. Do not buy the whole store stock of HB. Vibes/Blades(just a different name) - work well for bottom fish such as flathead. Easy to cast particularly in windy weather and easy to loose in the snagged area. I would buy a few of them at different weight. Other HB - consider small poppers, small metal (like halco twisty) and some plastic HB for bream depending what do you intend to target .
Soft vibes - Combination of vibe and SP. Very popular at the moment. Can be expensive.
A Q for the shark fisherman
in Gamefishing Tackle and Techniques
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I thought this kind of bait is/was popular only in Africa.
Was it quite common in Australia as well?