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thought etecs didnt have a run in stage ?
and all those moving parts on the four strokes have been proven to run for 3000 plus hours, going off commercial usethe etec has its own complexities and you just decide which poison you want to play with.
dont service or maintain and all can play up
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some things to consider
merc 150
suzuki 180 kilos
merc
2000cc v6
suzuki
2044cc inline 4
i doubt the 140 suzuki will give you the perforamnce of the 135 black max
you will use less fuel oil and experience less fumes and noisefrom my experience you need to go 20-30% larger in hp to get the same result
but then the game of weight v what block is being used for a group of engines and capcity comes into play -
talk to the engine fitter as to what prop to fit and generally trial and error will be needed unless they have fitted one to your type of hull before
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if its cheap enough drive up yourself
if its not cheap enough to consider this then its probably not worth the saving -
have used a handheld at the peak and 12mil of botany no dramas
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any service history on the engine, if not would you drive a 17 year old car into the wolderness with no service history ?
buy a boat to do in th einshore stuff well and jump on a mates bigger boat and through in for fuel and have a better more reliable bay river boat -
i just fitted a 50hp four stroke yamaah to the same boat
firstly is this a tiller or side console version cause the Yamaha tiller arm is second to none the mercury one looks like rubbish i havnt seen a suzuki one to comment.
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its probably got 5000 hours on it.
buy it assuming it it will die at any time, have corrosion issues and been worked hard
ask the question why are they selling it and theres your answer
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3.5-6k for a transom or transom and stringers and floor
somestimes its just not economically viable to do -
id say the charter will have something better then a hds7
sure the ripples wernt just the boat bobbing up and down with the chop ? -
should have said my first yamaha four stroke
i cant handle fumes anymore after racing go karts and inhaling too much 16:1 2 stroke mix
optis etecs 2 strokes make me ill now more so when trolling for a few hours with the wind behind -
the 50 60 70 yamaha four stroke are all 996cc engines and i think you will need more capacity then this to equal your 60 2 stroke
i just got my first one and its bloody lovely quiet smooth bugger all fuel and no fumes
ive owned everything from carbed 2 strokes from 6hp to 235hp a 90 optimax and a 75 etec and nothing compares to this for meservicing isnt dear 250 for first and 350 per year plus anodes if needed
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agreed or market value ?
if market they will give you market value for the engine so you will have to pay the difference to get the two stroke anyway
i would pay the difference to go to a four but unsure if a 60 four would be enough hp for you -
thats the point medic it doesnt always work
it may for you but in some scenarios and differing boats it wont -
all gal trailers will rust
the gal coating isnt there to make it last for ever
it is sacrificial, if rust i sshowing through the gal on the main part of the trailer then its normally at the end of its useable life
things like fittings bolts u bolts nuts plates get damaged during installation where new and should just be replaced -
i have a 420 renegade tiller with a 50hp four stroke yamaha
The engine was only fitted a week ago so only have a few hours on it and havnt opened it up as yet
You need max hp if running with heavy loads ie 3 fat blokes or loaded with gear
cant comment on fuel usage as yet with such low hours but super quiet smooth holds revs and planes quickly, the 50hp yamaha is a 4 cyclinder 996cc engine vesus others with 2 cyclinder or 3 cyclinder and smaller capcity engines -
another option is weigh up what you will get for your boat as it is running add the cost of a new engine and then see what you can get a few years old for the same money
you will suprise yourself and go from a 30 year old boat to a 10 year old boat for less money then the repower alonejust an option unless your sentimentally attached to that boat
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doesnt always work if a bit of surge
my 530 cruisecraft even with a 12pd plough anchor would pull free at leperouse etc then swing around and risk snapping ransducers off etc if not paying attention -
for the bay a guided charter is on of the best ways to feel whats happening and about
dont go on one of those $70 beer and puke bottom bashing boats but a $120-$150 outfit where there will only be 4-6 people
you will learn more about the bay in one sesssion with who ever you choose then years sitting under a bridge -
looks to be electrolisis from a bad earthed battery or power from the engine as its only happen around where the engine is bolted on
your 6 engine mounting bolt holes look ok but u do have some cancer around the outsides of some of the holes
im with the other guys on this one get the whole section cut out and weld in a new sheet it wont be cheap but any aluminium welder with a quality machine could weld that in no time flat with a mig welder and get a brace put on the inside of the transom for some strength as the only strength u seem to have is that top lip
i read your strapped for cash so maybe the better option is to clean it up than use some JB Weld its an epoxy metal just tape one side and fill the holes, another option is to drill out each hole to a certain size say 5mm than use a 5mm stainless bolt and sikaflex it in
the engine pad caused it, salt build up behind it and it etchs eats into the ally underneath as its never flushed
nearly every boat will have damage behind the engine pad if left long enough
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you guys are looking at it from a narrow view point and just that of your own self interest.
the issue is lack of parking infrastructure and the lack of boat ramps to service our waterways for the growing population.
its to stop derelict boats being left on streets for yearsor around other locations where people who dont even live there just leave their boats in back streets as cheap storage "mad if you ask me for security reasons"
they just fill it up after a days fishing and wheel clamp it in some random street to save towing it -
have a good google and ask around as more then a few of them have ended up upside down
consensus was hard tops too much crap on top and tbh the hp on them seems a bit overkill
and also that one that needed extensive repairs from new
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not sure but they hold their value even still despite the time
ive been in 4 of these 3 owned by the one fella as he kept going up in size as he found them.
the mas produced plate boats just dont compare in quality of build and you have the ability to option the boat in anyway you want, this does come at a cost thoughthey mass produced ones do look pretty though
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i dont know how you can assume i havnt been in one i have been in many boats in our local bass clubs
I was talking about sub to just planning speeds in sloppy water/weather, this is the point of use i was focused on.
id rather have a fine entry point that pushes the water down, the stern of the boat does not matter in this instance15-20knots knots in the bay in the afternoon when you should be home already, i have been in a 440 renegade in these conditions and it would be detrimental to any boat to try and get it up to 20 odd knots and try to skim over it
its not a criticism of stacer , just they are two differing hull shapes
to the op
the main reason of a boutique plate boat is you can get what ever feature you want built into it and watch and control the process somewhat during the buildthe resale is generally higher then a mass produced boat, have a look at joshua boats as an example
replacement motor size options. help
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the brother in law has a etec 200ho on a 6m haines and uses 300-400mm of xd100 per 100l of fuel
he only bottom drops so its 20-25knot cruise everywhere with next to no trolling unless conditions are too rough
the peak 12 mile browns or the shelf further south
as he fishes minimum once a week his oil and fuel bill are considerable higher then a boat used 10 times a year like many
in this situation is neither here nor there in comparing the cost of xd100 to a filter and sump oil.