Seagoon Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 This is a bar crossing from Wolli apparently. One of the comments seems to have merit - about the break being lesser on the starboard side of the boat...
abiasin Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 thats awsome ive never seen a bar crossing done before only read about them. looks like fun if done safely. i would have also gone right personally, wouldnt that be common sense.
Holmesie Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 (edited) I'll be keen to read what those with experience have to say! It looks like that S pearfish tries to back up just before hitting the first big wave (where is nearly goes over sideways ) I am a relative newby to bar crossings (done Narooma, South West Rocks & Yamba a few times). Is it wise to be stopped in the water before a large wave? Wouldn't some forward power help maintain your steerage? (I understand trimming the motor down fully helps keep the front of the boat down) I often wonder if the bar crossing looks worse from the shore than on the boat Cheers Holmesie Edited June 28, 2007 by Holmesie
TheDiko Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 How much air does that first boat get on its last wave That would be so much fun Keeping safe ofcourse IFS
johnno Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 Bars are dangerous for sure I done my first at SWR at christmas and it was all good Sure they where filming etc but I think it was silly for hitting the left as the right was better and wouldn,t of put you or your crew in danger.
Holmesie Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 I done my first at SWR at christmas and it was all good SWR is a tricky little bar hey, Johnno? I stood on the wall and watched it for 30mins or so till I was sure of the best approach to it - it was all good for me too
Andy Loops Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 I agree - not smart to be a sitting duck with oncoming whitewater. At least a little bit of forward momentum would keep the bow into the frothy stuff and reduce the risk of getting swamped. Have only ever crossed bars in big rigs so not too much of an issue but as long as everyone is wearing their type 1 PFD's and skipper has his wits about him (watching the surf and other boats crossing) should be ok. Does look like fun doesnt it! Personally I find the return approach a little more daunting...
johnno Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 SWR is a tricky little bar hey, Johnno? I stood on the wall and watched it for 30mins or so till I was sure of the best approach to it - it was all good for me too I have gone there all my life my grandfather had a fishing boat and used to head out of the back creek.also asked a locals questions on the Bars which help. I used to watch boats head out all the time but never done it myself. I did sit and watch the sets and timed it well and it was sweet in a 5.0 tinnie.
Holmesie Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 tthese guys are lucky I reckon the guy in the bow had a hard landing, lucky he had a reasonably flat deck to land on
james1990 Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 Top video's i love the part when they guy at the fronts feet are sticking obove the windscreen top stuff. cheers james
Frantic Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 I still remember the first time i went out over the Nambucca bar with a pro fisho,it was a 2mt sea and swell running but we had to go out.We got out about halfway and he went from 3/4 throttle to idle (OMFG) and we where just sitting there in amongst the froth.We copped two waves on the cabin and then he gunned it and by the time we hit the last of the breakers it was only just swell. Personally i was shitting myself.LOL. It was a 8m Platey with a Jet on the back.
micksfishn Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 thats just crazy never done it prob never will and if i do god help me cause ill need it cheers mick
warnie Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 Boys Just a word of caution............. i fish up at s.w. rocks a fair bit and that bar still puts the wind up me when i cross it sure it can be fun, but bars do have a dark side a couple of years ago i was unfortunate enough to carry out a rescue on a local dive boat that turned over whilest crossing the last set on the bar. on pulling a young girl of about 12yrs old out of the water i will never forget the fear she showed in her eyes that day. And has served as a reminder ever since yea, with common sense in mind there is no problem most of the time but if you come across what was shown on u tube for example unless you are 100% confident with yourself and the boat give it a miss that day its not worth it i dont want to sound like a party pooper it's just that i would much prefer to be out there fishing with you Cheers Steve
Holmesie Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 (edited) yea, with common sense in mind there is no problem most of the time but if you come across what was shown on u tube for example unless you are 100% confident with yourself and the boat give it a miss that day its not worth it i dont want to sound like a party pooper it's just that i would much prefer to be out there fishing with you Cheers Steve wise words indeed steve I found SWR to be one of the trickiest in my small amount of experience and it was relatively flat at the time - even so I still had two waves stand up in front of me, not to mention the kink in the channel that meant going out on an angle to the waves at the time. Talked to some locals at the tackleshop before launching and that is knowledge worth paying for!! It definitely comes down to commonsense and if it looks to rough to go out, then it probably is, certainly not worth losing your boat (or worse) over. I don't do bar crossings for fun, the fun starts once you're safely outside Cheers Holmesie Edited June 29, 2007 by Holmesie
Reel Addiction Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 I am not a fan of bar crossing and will do anything to avoid going across them. Even if you do get out the the return leg is playing on your mind alday worrying about the swell and the tide and i cant enjoy my fishin cause i am thinking out comeing back in over the bar
Seagoon Posted June 30, 2007 Author Posted June 30, 2007 In that second video, wouldnt that bloke have been better off turning around and going back in, chilling out and then having a second bite when he had his mind together. I think that first wave after he got the motor going was a shocker! Very lucky! Ive never done a bar crossing myself as a driver, but guess i will one day when i have a boat that is suitable. Real Addiction - dont worry about the homeward bar crossing - dont let it spoil your fishing mate. If you make it out, the chances are youll get back in. And if its a bit rough around the edges when you do get back in, well, im sure you be able to work something out. If youve done your homework then you can do no more. Im a hypocrite, i have to tell you, because im the master of worrying about things that i know are on the horizon, and letting it spoil the moment. So yeah, i should listen to myself! I have to keep reminding myself to stay in the present... ;-)
arpie Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Jeee- sus First reaction - going too fast Second reaction - Stupid bastards Third reaction - lucky to be alive - both vids - but especially the 2nd one. You get a Knock on the head & it doesn't matter if you are wearing a life jacket or not (and most don't .....) IMHO - Not Worth the possible Consequences! Cheerio Roberta
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