fragmeister Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Hi Raiders, Here an interesting one for you. What would you do in this situation... Just sold a car and got probably 2k less than market value which was about 2k above most speculative offers. Guy inspects the car. Takes if for a test drive. Says he wants it. Comes back the next day with the cash. We do the paperwork, count the cash and shake hands. He drives off and half an hour later he calls me to tell me there is an engine warning light on. I tell him that it wasn't there before and he agrees. I suggest he checks the manual to see what the light means and lets me know. So what would you do fellow raiders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdtimelucky Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Tough. Technically it's his problem, and seeing as he paid 2k less, I wouldn't feel to guilty, and you don't know if he's had his fingers in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big Neil Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 G'day Jim. I know that you would feel less than good about the situation. Had this "warning light" ever come on whilst you had driven the car? If it hadn't, I would point that out to the guy and remind him that he got the car for a bargain price, then leave him with it. If it was a recurring problem though, that could be a bit different. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragmeister Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) G'day Jim. I know that you would feel less than good about the situation. Had this "warning light" ever come on whilst you had driven the car? If it hadn't, I would point that out to the guy and remind him that he got the car for a bargain price, then leave him with it. If it was a recurring problem though, that could be a bit different. Cheers. Hi Neil, The warning light did come on about 2 years ago and from memory it was something to do with the pollution control and the dealer replaced a sensor. It hasn't lit up since then. It has been sitting around for 5 months so perhaps that has something to do with it. Edited December 17, 2015 by fragmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Neil, it could be an O2 sensor (most likely) or, because it hasn't been used in 5 months, may have had a glitch in the computer. If he takes it to a servo or auto electrician, it can be reset on the scanner and then if it comes back, it may need attention. Also, the scanner should indicate just where the problem lies, if anywhere at all. Just advise him to get the error code reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambrose607 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 If the car is in the NRMA roadside assistance they can scan the error code and reset it if necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragmeister Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 Neil, it could be an O2 sensor (most likely) or, because it hasn't been used in 5 months, may have had a glitch in the computer. If he takes it to a servo or auto electrician, it can be reset on the scanner and then if it comes back, it may need attention. Also, the scanner should indicate just where the problem lies, if anywhere at all. Just advise him to get the error code reset. If the car is in the NRMA roadside assistance they can scan the error code and reset it if necessary Thanks boys, Neil's assessment that I am uncomfortable about this is spot on so I want to help the buyer out. I'll text him that advice. Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big Neil Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Hi Jim, hope everything gets sorted and you can have a peaceful Christmas, spending the money. Have a good one mate, Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Good on you for trying to do the right thing mate.In this day and age more and more people are offering brake light warrantys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutsaboutfishing Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Hey Fragmeister, It's great that you're still concerned even after the sale. I reckon you sold it in good faith and your role is finished. It'd be different if the light was going on then off then on again BEFORE you sold it and you didn't tell the buyer. cheers Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambrose607 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Mine came on about a month ago. Problem is you get no warning. Just stopped at the lights and you happen to glance down ahh shirt that wasn't on yesterday. Mine happened to be an 02 sensor. Easy fix but expensive part $385 non genuine. Subaru Forester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric001 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Mine came on due to a failed cat converter. Warranty repair as it completely collapsed and messed with fuel settings. 280km for a full tank, talk about running super rich. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 What type of car is it Frag? Same as what the others have said, any mechanic can scan the error codes. They use a OBDII interface connector to either a small device or into a laptop. I have one myself as fixing cars is a hobby of mine. Its also handy to have before purchasing a car too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo4fishin Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Funny that this happen to me also.. Brought a car , test drove it paid the cash the next day.. One week later the engine like light came one and it was the o2 sensor , replaced for $150 and all fixed now.. Now I wouldn't call the old owner and tell them that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4myson Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Hey Jim , Good on you for trying to do the right thing ... I'm a Mobile Mechanic & I'll be more than happy to hook up my scanner to it (free of charge) . At least that way you'll know exactly what your dealing with & it will put your mind at ease ..... Glad to help out a fellow Raider .... Just PM me ." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJGough Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Any chance it is a falcon? Not trying to make a ford joke, it is common for BA Falcons to throw CEL's from either the O2 sensor or the Catalytic converter. Sent from my D6653 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragmeister Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Thanks for your offers, suggestions and kind words boys. I have just come back from a few days camping at Bonnievale on the Hacking ( trying to muscle in on Yowie's fish!) I have been in communication with the buyer of the car (Captiva 2008) and the error code was reset but came back and was indicating a timing chain/belt issue. This was replaced at around 60,000 ks at just over 5 years under Holden's assisted warranty scheme and cost me $480. The car now has 105,000ks. I didn't know this was a recurring problem... I though I was just unlucky. Apparently the buyer has been told that it may respond to some computer tweaking otherwise its a $3,500 repair. I told the buyer that I want to help him but not if he takes it to Holden and their inflated repair costs. It seems a search on the web turns up a lot of instances of this model with timing chain issues. Pity, otherwise it was a reliable car. Waiting for the result of the computer tweaking. Cheers Jim Edited December 23, 2015 by fragmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Thanks for your offers, suggestions and kind words boys. I have just come back from a few days camping at Bonnievale on the Hacking ( trying to muscle in on Yowie's fish!) I have been in communication with the buyer of the car (Captiva 2008) and the error code was reset but came back and was indicating a timing chain/belt issue. This was replaced at around 60,000 ks at just over 5 years under Holden's assisted warranty scheme and cost me $480. The car now has 105,000ks. I didn't know this was a recurring problem... I though I was just unlucky. Apparently the buyer has been told that it may respond to some computer tweaking otherwise its a $3,500 repair. I told the buyer that I want to help him but not if he takes it to Holden and their inflated repair costs. It seems a search on the web turns up a lot of instances of this model with timing chain issues. Pity, otherwise it was a reliable car. Waiting for the result of the computer tweaking. Cheers Jim Those captivas are known for having electrical gremlins Jim as you have just found out,and it won't be the first or last to have its PCM replaced if that's the case.The Captivas are based on the Korean Daewoos that GM took over that have ceased operation a long time ago in Australia.I laugh when people who drive Captivas,Barinas and cruzes say why do you drive a Daewoo.Little do they know their driving around in rebadged Daewoos also.I thought the timing belt change intervals where 90k on them. Edited December 23, 2015 by Fab1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric001 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 A friend had a Captiva with poltergeist, engine starts without the key in the car. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4myson Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 In our Mechanical trade there known as CRAPTIVA !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric001 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) That's exactly the name my friend uses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[emoji3] Edited December 25, 2015 by Ric001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragmeister Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 In our Mechanical trade there known as CRAPTIVA !!!!! Yes... I believe it!. I originally bought it based on having a Holden credit card with a lot of points on it. Got me a $6,000 discount and at the time I started a new business and cashflow was a bit of a problem. Generally the car was reliable but I never really liked it. The final straw was getting the boat stuck in the mud at the Silverwater boat ramp ... the Captiva just wouldn't pull it out. I've been a Jeep owner of many years ... had three of them and never had a single problem. So I went back to a Jeep. I bought Grand Cherokee Overland with 5.7 V8 earlier this year. I have a fair amount of exposure to clients and it presents well but also has no problems pulling the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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