geshy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 tossing up between the gossa 8000 or the saltist 4500 looking at reviews alot of people are saying the gossa is better just looking for opinions will be used for spinning of the rocks for pelagics and of the boat for jew etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerotao Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) Have not used the new saltist 2016. But i have used a saragosa 10k sw. I liked it so much i bought a spheros 10k which is an identical reel bar speed ratio and a $6 ball bearing i dont know how shimano justifies $100-$150 price difference when the main different component is a $6 ball bearing and bushing i guess with the saltist you would have to worry about servicing the mag seal bearings Edited November 20, 2017 by xerotao Wrong part quoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geshy Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 20/11/2017 at 7:39 PM, xerotao said: Have not used the new saltist 2016. But i have used a saragosa 10k sw. I liked it so much i bought a spheros 10k which is an identical reel bar speed ratio and a $6 ball bearing i dont know how shimano justifies $100-$150 price difference when the main different component is a $6 washer i guess with the saltist you would have to worry about servicing the mag seal bearings oh really i didnt know that so i could just buy the washer an pretty much have a gossa haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerotao Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Sorry. Not washer. Ball bearing.... 10 minutes ago, geshy said: oh really i didnt know that so i could just buy the washer an pretty much have a gossa haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geshy Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 20/11/2017 at 7:59 PM, xerotao said: Sorry. Not washer. Ball bearing.... oh haha no worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I bought a 4500 and 6000 saltiest and very quickly sold them on. I've owned a 8000 10000 and 25000 gosa which I've been very happy with. Personally I would get the 8000 gosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geshy Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 20/11/2017 at 8:33 PM, JonD said: I bought a 4500 and 6000 saltiest and very quickly sold them on. I've owned a 8000 10000 and 25000 gosa which I've been very happy with. Personally I would get the 8000 gosa. yeah im leaning towars the gosa mate thanks for your opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_White Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Any Daiwa Reel that has the "Mag Sealed" Bearings, I personally would stay away from No one can service them except Japan ..... Now that SUCKS !!! Go the Gosa, I have the older models, but if the newer ones are anything like the older versions , jump at them !!! Great_White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geshy Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 20/11/2017 at 9:06 PM, Great_White said: Any Daiwa Reel that has the "Mag Sealed" Bearings, I personally would stay away from No one can service them except Japan ..... Now that SUCKS !!! Go the Gosa, I have the older models, but if the newer ones are anything like the older versions , jump at them !!! Great_White alreay locke it in mate thanks haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 11 hours ago, geshy said: yeah im leaning towars the gosa mate thanks for your opinion This is my daughter using her one on bluefin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragmeister Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I am in favour of the Saragossa too. There is a lot of common technology taken from the Stella range but without the cost. Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob81 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I have a goosa 8k. Thing is like a tank, been smashed by salt water over the years and still going good. Also, I think a Daiwa 4500 is more similar size to the Shimano 6k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towlersbay boy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Saragossa is a great reel but is very heavy with the 8000 being 680g. I had one for jigging & it lasted a long time but for spinning from the rocks it is a bad choice. If you are looking to put a good action on surface lures & also be able to cast for hours on end you need to keep the weight down. Have a look at the Biomaster 8000, at 550g it much lighter & has a faster 5.7:1 gear ratio for better retrieve. The Gossa has a 5.6:1 ratio which is slower & more powerful (great for jigging/deep water work) & a full metal body to stop flex but ^ weight. The new Saltists are ok but I would save the coin & buy a Black & Gold if you want Diawa but you have to be happy with the T handle as it is not interchangeable with other real 4 reel handles. As for MAG seal I have a lot of diawa reals with it & have not had an issue. For an example I have changed the line roller bearing twice in my shimano Sustain & not once in either of my Certates that see more work. Diawa Australia are in Brookvale & can do all the servicing. I would go down to a shop & pick up the reals before buying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerotao Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 You are probably better off with a 6k if you are spinning lures. As an 8k would make your arms very sore as Towlersbay Boy also note that daiwa bg isnt waterproof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainframeJames Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, xerotao said: You are probably better off with a 6k if you are spinning lures. As an 8k would make your arms very sore as Towlersbay Boy also note that daiwa bg isnt waterproof I know reels not being waterproof is common, but every time it's pointed out I have this moment where I think that makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerotao Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, MainframeJames said: I know reels not being waterproof is common, but every time it's pointed out I have this moment where I think that makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. It does help with accidental splashes and dunks and hence why its classed as a saltwater reel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainframeJames Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, xerotao said: It does help with accidental splashes and dunks and hence why its classed as a saltwater reel Right, I mean *not* being waterproof seems very silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The Stradic 5000 fk is a good little reel for land based too if you want to keep the weight down, I've had one since they first came out which has been fantastic ( if only the kids would let me use it occasionally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geshy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 21/11/2017 at 9:00 AM, JonD said: This is my daughter using her one on bluefin. wow what size man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geshy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 21/11/2017 at 11:30 AM, Towlersbay boy said: Saragossa is a great reel but is very heavy with the 8000 being 680g. I had one for jigging & it lasted a long time but for spinning from the rocks it is a bad choice. If you are looking to put a good action on surface lures & also be able to cast for hours on end you need to keep the weight down. Have a look at the Biomaster 8000, at 550g it much lighter & has a faster 5.7:1 gear ratio for better retrieve. The Gossa has a 5.6:1 ratio which is slower & more powerful (great for jigging/deep water work) & a full metal body to stop flex but ^ weight. The new Saltists are ok but I would save the coin & buy a Black & Gold if you want Diawa but you have to be happy with the T handle as it is not interchangeable with other real 4 reel handles. As for MAG seal I have a lot of diawa reals with it & have not had an issue. For an example I have changed the line roller bearing twice in my shimano Sustain & not once in either of my Certates that see more work. Diawa Australia are in Brookvale & can do all the servicing. I would go down to a shop & pick up the reals before buying them. thanks for the great avice mate thats i think i will go try afew an see which i like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geshy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 thanks for the replys everyone i got a 17kg king toay with a iawa saltist nero 4500 sorry my d oesnt work on my keypa haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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